1. A molten fuel thorium reactor has never been built
2. The molten fuel uranium reactor built as a mock up for thorium had some major project jeapordising issues with embrittlement of all surfaces in contact with the hot radioactive fuel that must be solved.
3. Reprocessing of fuel to extract fissile materials is not already being done on a big scale for Uranium suggesting economics does not favour it. Extracting U233 from Thorium should be easier though?
4. Even basic issues like dealing with fuel from ordinary reactors is not being addressed in the USA. There are no commercial reprocessing facilities there at all.
5. To some extent existing light water reactors are somewhat close to being breeders already - you still have to be able to reprocess the fuel.
6. The successful shippinghouse breeder had a 1100 tons of Uranium233 and 35 tons of Thorium - it worked but the fuel needs to be reprocessed to remove the uranium233 from the Thorium blanket and build the new U233+Thorium active core. The whole thing even if successful is a major hassle that is probably not justified by current oil and gas prices
Pretty much right as far as I have been able to find through research on the web.
But I would add that currently the biggest amount of research dollars being spent on nuclear power is on the thorium cycle, and it is being spent in China and India because they do not have adequate supplies of oil, gas and uranium and they have very abundant supplies of thorium. At current course and speed we might have full-scale thorium MSRs in operation in the early 2030s.
The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off. --Gloria Steinem AREPS™
Wow, so dreaming of a future where we are not beholden to the oil companies is somehow to be ridiculed?
Yes, you just said it all. DREAMING. 40 years of dreaming so far, but be my guest and dream on. I personally are not dreaming, and are structuring my live to face the reality of ever increasing energy prices.
BTW, the greedy oil company myth no longer washes since most of the world's conventional oils now come from sovereign nations like Iran and Iraq rather than BP and shell. That is just another dream. "If only the greedy oil companies... Blah Blah Blah"
Frank Castle
5 Dec 2013, 08:42 AM
Ever heard of battery powered cars and Hydogen powered cars dickhead
There have possibly been many energy sources played with over the years that have mysteriously disappeared possibly to materialise again when their is a shitload of money to made off of them
O Dear! The usually mainstreem news junky turns to conspiracy sites to try and explain why people are forced to pay $70 for a 1400km trip in a $14,000 new car rather than buy a battery powered car for $50,000 that wouldn't even make out beyond the city limits. The technology is too expensive frankie, no one wants it.
Yes, you just said it all. DREAMING. 40 years of dreaming so far, but be my guest and dream on. I personally are not dreaming, and are structuring my live to face the reality of ever increasing energy prices.
BTW, the greedy oil company myth no longer washes since most of the world's conventional oils now come from sovereign nations like Iran and Iraq rather than BP and shell. That is just another dream. "If only the greedy oil companies... Blah Blah Blah"
I've already structured my life around ever increasing energy prices. I don't own a car. I shop from markets, thereby reducing packaging. I already use natural personal hygiene products. My clothes are mostly natural fibres. I don't use a heater when it's cold, I put a jumper on. I don't have air conditioning, I open a window, if it's too warm for that, I go to the shops and wander around looking at all the useless stuff I won't be buying. I'm currently building my own VAWT, so I don't have to rely on electricity prices to run my computer.
This thread is simply a nice diversion from some of the heavier threads.
Also, all you're doing is replacing western greedy oil companies with eastern greedy oil companies... Calling them sovereign nations doesn't make them any less greedy or any less companies.
Also, "I personally are not dreaming, and are structuring my live to face..." You mean "I personally am not dreaming, and am structuring my life to face..."
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Ever heard of battery powered cars and Hydogen powered cars dickhead
There have possibly been many energy sources played with over the years that have mysteriously disappeared possibly to materialise again when their is a shitload of money to made off of them
Getting back to my tin foil hattery / suppression of alternative fuel ideas for the benefit of oil companies elites. Have a look at these .
Evidence of suppression in action and in Mainstream Media.
goldbug
6 Dec 2013, 05:46 AM
O Dear! The usually mainstreem news junky turns to conspiracy sites
Funny coming from the clown who uses conspiracy sites to support his failed gold price to the moon bunkum . Is it so hard for your pea sized brain to comprehend that the same cartel who owns the corporations who suppress the alternative energy ideas for their own benefit also own the mainstream media?
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Now I see why you like rockhampton. You like to be near the Aliens
You wankers are so fucking dumb How many times do I have to tell you (now look into my eyes) I_DO_NOT_LIVE_IN_ROCKHAMPTON.
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how many times do i have to tell you before it sinks in? it was tested extensively at oak ridge labs.
there's even a picture of the reactor
does that look like a drawing board concept to you?
That's a trial which failed to achieve the optimal success they wanted. There's a number of thorium reactors being constructed around the world. Again it is trial. If over time they produce optimal results then in the 2030's we might see breeder reactors for both metals built on the commercial scale.
Too dumb to tell the difference.
As for something small enough to fit in a car, that remains science fiction.
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