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Car that needs refueling only every 100 years; Boom goes peak oil
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Count du Monet
4 Dec 2013, 09:25 PM
You seem to think these have been built? They don't exist except on the drawing board. Every reactor using Thorium so far has been a hybrid.
wrong again.

oak ridge built several experimental thorium reactors. as i said right at the start, the only thing holding this back is peoples paranoia.

it's probably going to take the lights to go out to solve that level of stupidity, but it will happen.
Edited by Pig Iron, 4 Dec 2013, 09:44 PM.
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Thorium is super expensive so forget it BP. I have a link for an engine that runs on water though, it was invented years ago but the illuminati controlled zionist banker cartel assassinated everyone linked to the project, as you of course would understand. It was a simple idea though. You just stick a hose in your fuel tank and fill it up with water, you know, hydrogen and oxygen? The secret is the splitter BP, but it shits all over thorium engines. PM me and I'll give you the link.
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Count du Monet
4 Dec 2013, 09:25 PM
You seem to think these have been built? They don't exist except on the drawing board. Every reactor using Thorium so far has been a hybrid.
The researchers at Oak Ridge National Laboratory built one in 1965... It's discussed from about 8 and a half minutes into this video...



It was running for 5 years.
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4 Dec 2013, 09:49 PM
Thorium is super expensive so forget it BP. I have a link for an engine that runs on water though, it was invented years ago but the illuminati controlled zionist banker cartel assassinated everyone linked to the project, as you of course would understand. It was a simple idea though. You just stick a hose in your fuel tank and fill it up with water, you know, hydrogen and oxygen? The secret is the splitter BP, but it shits all over thorium engines. PM me and I'll give you the link.
Gah, Thorium isn't expensive, it's found all over the planet, it's actually currently considered waste from mining operations.
Edited by Kulganis, 4 Dec 2013, 09:55 PM.
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4 Dec 2013, 09:49 PM
Thorium is super expensive so forget it BP. I have a link for an engine that runs on water though, it was invented years ago but the illuminati controlled zionist banker cartel assassinated everyone linked to the project, as you of course would understand. It was a simple idea though. You just stick a hose in your fuel tank and fill it up with water, you know, hydrogen and oxygen? The secret is the splitter BP, but it shits all over thorium engines. PM me and I'll give you the link.
thorium is more abundant that uranium you fuckwit.
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Pig Iron
4 Dec 2013, 09:44 PM
wrong again.

oak ridge built several experimental thorium reactors. as i said right at the start, the only thing holding this back is peoples paranoia.

it's probably going to take the lights to go out to solve that level of stupidity, but it will happen.
They are hybrids, they depend on Uranium not just to start the chain reaction, but to keep it going as well. And none of these were liquid fluoride thorium reactors. There hasn't been a successful breeder reactor of any variety yet.
Kulganis
4 Dec 2013, 09:54 PM
The researchers at Oak Ridge National Laboratory built one in 1965... It's discussed from about 8 and a half minutes into this video...

You have a real link, (not Sorensen) showing a working LFTR at any point in history?
Edited by Count du Monet, 4 Dec 2013, 10:07 PM.
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Count du Monet
4 Dec 2013, 09:57 PM
They are hybrids, they depend on Uranium not just to start the chain reaction, but to keep it going as well. And none of these were liquid fluoride thorium reactors. There hasn't been a successful breeder reactor of any variety yet.


Count is in fact correct. The oak ridge experiment was an engineering mock up which only used liquid Uranium based fuel

i think you are getting mixed up.

Thorium is fertile rather than fissile. To begin producing the fissile heat producing Uranium, a Thorium reactor will always require a source of neutrons, but once started the fission of the uranium that the reactor is creating, will create a self sustaining reaction where the fertile Thorium is consumed to produced fissile Uranium that is in turn consumed producing heat.

The nature of a Thorium reactor is that for it to work it has to breed fissile Uranium 233
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$60/barrel O my GOD! Were running out of oil.
$70/barrel Don't worry, "they will think of something"
$80/barrel Technology will fix it.
$90/barrel See, shale oil to the rescue.
$100/barrel Ok, thorium reactors in suburban cars, see, problem solved.
$110/barrel
$120/barrel...
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I don't understand why you think Sorenson isn't real, he is an engineer from Utah State University, he worked at NASA for 10 years.
Count du Monet
4 Dec 2013, 09:57 PM
You have a real link, (not Sorensen) showing a working LFTR at any point in history?
But Ok, here...
The Aircraft Reactor Experiment-Operation 1957
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The ARE was operated successfully in November, 1954, at various power levels up to 2.5 MWt. The maximum steady-state fuel temperature was 1580ºF (1130 K), and there was a differential temperature between the inlet and outlet in the NaF-ZrF4-UF4 fuel of 355ºF (200 K). The fuel system was in operation for 241 hr before the reactor first became critical and the nuclear operation extended over a period of 221 hr. The final 74 hr of operation were in the megawatt range and resulted in the production of 96 MW-hr of nuclear energy. Effects of various transient
conditions on reactor operation were determined.
http://moltensalt.org/references/static/downloads/pdf/NSE_ARE_Operation.pdf
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Kulganis
4 Dec 2013, 10:12 PM
The Aircraft Reactor Experiment-Operation 1957
Thats a Uranium fuelled reactor. They were testing the idea of a liquid fuelled reactor.

Count is in fact correct. The Oak Ridge experiment was an engineering mock up which only used liquid Uranium based fuel

Edited by Andrew Judd, 4 Dec 2013, 10:31 PM.
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Andrew Judd
4 Dec 2013, 10:11 PM
i think you are getting mixed up.

Thorium is fertile rather than fissile. To begin producing the fissile heat producing Uranium, a Thorium reactor will always require a source of neutrons, but once started the fission of the uranium that the reactor is creating, will create a self sustaining reaction where the fertile Thorium is consumed to produced fissile Uranium that is in turn consumed producing heat.

The nature of a Thorium reactor is that for it to work it has to breed fissile Uranium 233
I know all that. A Thorium rector to be useful has to be a breeder. No such animal has ever been successfully created. Never been a true breeder with Uranium let alone Thorium. The "Thorium" reactors so far created have required additional uranium input to keep going.
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