Not a difficult question ta answer - Ya either do or ya don't. 'N yep, OK, if you've bought no more than two in the last year, I'd be prepared ta say that's close enough to a No for mine; In this day 'n age ...
Yeah, I've got Thai restaurants and Chinese restaurants coming out of me arsehole. You want one?
stinkbug omosessuale Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments. Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck! See here Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
Yeah, I've got Thai restaurants and Chinese restaurants coming out of me arsehole. You want one?
No thanks. I'm an old school eat home cooked at home type dude - Except when I had a boss who gave me a 'use it or lose it' type meal allowance I guess.
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer:"negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
I happened to have lunch yesterday with a chief from one of Victoria’s migrant bodies, who has pretty good exposure to the issues across the board. We were chatting about the number of migrants buying businesses or setting them up when they migrate (and what sort of businesses they are moving into). I asked ‘What sort of businesses are migrants moving into? How difficult are they finding it? How has that changed since the GFC?’
I’ve transcribed his response.
"Absolutely nobody is moving here to go into business per se. The only exceptions are really the medical professionals – dentists, doctors, specialists – who can get Australian professional accreditation through a straightforward process. Although sometimes this is very long it is usually clear. Some accountants can easily convert international qualifications, and many have qualifications inside Australia. There are few lawyers, engineering professions have a lot of problems unless they are from the Anglosphere, North America, EU, there are quite a few with skills in IT who start small businesses, but it is a very mature market and quite saturated. None of them are expecting to really make money, as opposed to making an ordinary living, and many can work from home.
Apart from that there are many migrants buying businesses, but almost none of them think the business is doing anything more than justifying applying for a migrant visa and a step towards being an Australian passport holder. It is a price to pay for an Australian passport, nothing more nothing less – and that is how they see it.
There are many different types of migrants as you would be aware, but the biggest factor is the access to money they have. In this regard the number of Chinese migrants who obviously have access to significant sums is a relatively new phenomena – I did a lot of work with Chinese about 10-15 years ago and it was a different type of migrant then – they had the skills or a real determination to be in another country. Now they often have the money, or someone close to them does, and they often see their time in Australia as something which may see them returning to their country if they need to make more money – I am sure there are still many Chinese as of old, but the number with quite significant sums money is noticeable even within the migrant world. Even they, in Australia, are generally not looking to buy a business so much as to grow it but rather to sustain it. It often has more appeal if they can employ people in the business, and more so if they can justify employing friends and family from back in their homeland.
But outside this most migrants are not coming here with lots of money. Most real migrants have sold their house in their home nation, and have found that in Australia housing costs alone will mean they are experiencing a lower quality of life – sure the services and parks and some other things may be better, but the actual home experience, in a house with their family, is often worse. When they start a business they are looking for something they can do which they have some familiarity with. Low complexity retailing and restaurants are very popular. But there are numerous families running shops in and around Melbourne – and even in Ballarat and Bendigo and beyond, of course Geelong too, and they are running on margins that no serious business would consider. I know of families in the suburbs of Melbourne who essentially rely on being open for maybe 70-80 hours per week to avoid being on welfare, and sometimes when you see their circumstances you wonder if it is worth it.
To get jobs it is getting more difficult – it has become so in the last, I would say 2-3 years. Most migrants, particularly in their first year or two, will take anything they can get. I know a 52 year old architecture professor who packs chicken legs in the western suburbs, other very well educated people in their home countries doing things like working in a sandwich shop for $12 per hour part time or at call, I know an IT guy who drives up past Ballarat on Monday morning, and comes back Friday night to be with his family. It may be easy for some, but I assure you it is quite difficult for many too.
From my experience it is in the first 2-3 years that people decide whether they can make moving to Australia work for them or not. After that they will wait until they get an Australian passport and go home, and we are seeing some signs of that increasing to countries where things are not bad economically at home, or they will simply persevere in the hope that things will get better here. The GFC was a big factor when there were many headlines overseas describing how Australia had a mining boom, and there were many migrants to Melbourne in particular from Greece and Turkey, Eastern Europe, but even from England and Ireland, although we don’t really see them too much. But I think there is more understanding now, because there are people going back, that things are not as easy here as they appeared maybe 3-4 years ago, and that migration here is for a certain type of individual or family but not all."
Sheep do not want to improve the farm, they just want to eat the grass. Peter :pop:
themoops
3 Dec 2013, 09:46 PM
Yeah, I've got Thai restaurants and Chinese restaurants coming out of me arsehole. You want one?
Supply and demand. If no one eats the food they produce they would go out of buisness. Peter :pop:
themoops
3 Dec 2013, 08:57 PM
You've lived a very sheltered Barbie Girl life haven't you Blondie.
Have you even met an immigrant?
Truth hurts Blondie, most immigrants couldn't give a flying fuck about you, or Australia. Which makes you treasonous and unAustralian for voting for mass immigration. You should be sent back to Slovakia.
Fuck you've had it easy, at least you're not a feminist.
You've lived a very sheltered Barbie Girl life haven't you Blondie.
Have you even met an immigrant?
Truth hurts Blondie, most immigrants couldn't give a flying fuck about you, or Australia. Which makes you treasonous and unAustralian for voting for mass immigration. You should be sent back to Slovakia.
Fuck you've had it easy, at least you're not a feminist.
No Moops Its you that's had it easy...you effin weasel shit for brains.
I've managed 2 mortgages & managed to pay off the & flip the property debts before I married ..wtf have you financially achieved?.. You think I've had everything on my lap .
You are not much younger than me ...
It's not Slovakia stupid it's Slovenia &. I'm half Swiss you shit for brains....... No I'm not a feminist... But I understand property .. You do not..
Simple as that honey dummy.
Newjerk? can you try harder than dig up another person's blog. My first promo was with Billabong and my name in English is modified with a T, am Perth born but also lived in Sydney to make my $$ It's Absolutely Fabulous if it includes brilliant locations, & high calibre tenants..what more does one want? Understand the power of the two "P"" or be financially challenged Even better when there is family who are property mad and one is born in some entitlements.....Understand that beautiful women are the exhibitionists we crave attention, whilst hot blooded men are the voyeurs ... A stunning woman can command and takes pleasure in being noticed. Seems not too many understand what it means to hold and own props and get threatened by those who do. Banks are considered to be law abiding and & rather boring places yeah not true . A bank balance sheet will show capital is dwarfed by their liabilities this means when a portions of loans is falling its problems for the bank.
No Moops Its you that's had it easy...you effin weasel shit for brains.
I've managed 2 mortgages & managed to pay off the & flip the property debts before I married ..wtf have you financially achieved?.. You think I've had everything on my lap .
You are not much younger than me ...
It's not Slovakia stupid it's Slovenia &. I'm half Swiss you shit for brains....... No I'm not a feminist... But I understand property .. You do not..
Simple as that honey dummy.
Yeah good for you. You bought in Perth when they were like 1/10 the price they are now.
That's called luck.
I doubt you're half Swiss, they're an intelligent people. They must have kicked your dad out for being a dumbie?
stinkbug omosessuale Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments. Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck! See here Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
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