I hope you aren't one of those men who think that by a wearing clothing that promotes their "assets" suggests ts that she is "asking for it ?"
For all we know, there may have been some heavy flirting going on between them for days, he takes that as a signal and later enters her room and makes love to her quite vigorously, and she doesn't protest at the time because part of her wants him, even though another part of her doesn't. It's only later, much later, when she resolves her internal conflicts that she decides she didn't want it, and then the issue of consent becomes a tricky one. I think if there was absolutely no interest on her part at all, she would have fought with him, tooth and nail, for Shorten is not an intimidating figure, and it would have necessarily become violent if Shorten was to have his way with her and then the issue of consent would not be in doubt. But there's no indication of violence from Shorten, which suggests to me that the lines may have been blurred, although there's still the matter of whether Shorten is telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and I've got my very grave doubts about that, which makes the issue worth pursuing, in my view.
As this has nothing to do with propety I can't imagine why it's getting airtime other than the fact BP derails the forum consistantly with irrelevance.
I will say the following, I have no idea as to Bill Shortens guilt in this matter. I am not saying he is guilty or not guilty, my next comment is purely about historical rape.
BP, Count
Would you both like to go to the current running Royal Commision into child sex abuse in the church and tell each and ever single complainant/victim of child sexual abuse that because they didn't tell someone 20-30yrs ago they are liars and nut jobs?? Because that's what you are saying that a sane person would report abuse the second it happens no matter the circumstances, is that right?
If it is right you blokes need to hang your heads in shame, very very poor
There's quite a degree of difference. In the case of the Church the Royal commission concerns conspiracy. Committing a crime and conspiring to commit crimes and/or perverting the course of justice are very different. In your case the only thing you see is sex.
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