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Bill Shorten being investigated for rape
Topic Started: 29 Nov 2013, 10:23 PM (8,032 Views)
Count du Monet
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DragonGM
30 Nov 2013, 10:58 AM
19 is an adult. Old enough to vote. Old enough to do the crime. Old enough to do the time.
From 30 years ago, for that sort of accusation? And traditionally a person is not an adult until 21. Adult at 18 is the product of goon rationalists.
themoops
30 Nov 2013, 11:00 AM
Well he's certainly a criminal in that he wants to increase immigration even further. He should be in jail just from that point of view.
The speculators dream. They get the money, the taxpayer gets bill. The people of Australia get the social destruction.

But I guess we know how the indigenous felt now don't we.
Edited by Count du Monet, 30 Nov 2013, 11:15 AM.
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Count du Monet
30 Nov 2013, 11:11 AM
From 30 years ago, for that sort of accusation? And traditionally a person is not an adult until 21. Adult at 18 is the product of goon rationalists.

The speculators dream. They get the money, the taxpayer gets bill. The people of Australia get the social destruction.

But I guess we know how the indigenous felt now don't we.
I agree, there are valid arguments for having 21 as the threshold into adulthood.

However, if you can hold a drivers license, drink alcohol, vote, fight in wars for your country, and rape women, then you are an adult. No point in being selective about it.
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Count du Monet
30 Nov 2013, 11:11 AM
From 30 years ago, for that sort of accusation? And traditionally a person is not an adult until 21. Adult at 18 is the product of goon rationalists.

The speculators dream. They get the money, the taxpayer gets bill. The people of Australia get the social destruction.

But I guess we know how the indigenous felt now don't we.
At least they were allowed to fight back if they wanted to.
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Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments.
Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck!
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themoops
30 Nov 2013, 11:21 AM
At least they were allowed to fight back if they wanted to.
True... the difference between what's happening to us and what happened to the aborigines is that we are choosing to have ourselves replaced as the owners of this country whereas they had no choice in the matter.
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Count du Monet
30 Nov 2013, 11:11 AM
From 30 years ago, for that sort of accusation? And traditionally a person is not an adult until 21. Adult at 18 is the product of goon rationalists.
The age of criminal responsibility is about 14 is it not? In certain circumstances, it can go as low as about 9, but the crown is required to prove the child was aware an action undertaken by said child was wrong.
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1 Dec 2013, 12:23 AM
The age of criminal responsibility is about 14 is it not? In certain circumstances, it can go as low as about 9, but the crown is required to prove the child was aware an action undertaken by said child was wrong.
Ferk!?!?! If they can go all the way back 'til I was 9, my arse is grass I reckon mate ... I'll simply NEVER see the light of day outside the prison system walls again even if I should happen ta live for THREE more lifetimes! ... :re:

Or then again, as Sir Johannes Bjelke Petersen said: "I have NO recollection of the events that occurred on THAT day Your Honour!" - Or any of the other bloody ones ya might ask me about either I reckon in my case! ... :D
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herbie
30 Nov 2013, 01:03 AM
They are politicians.
They are by definition (almost guaranteed to be) pieces of shit - Either because they are stupid enough to think they have solutions to lots of problems or dishonest enough to pretend they do if they are smart enough to know that they don't.
Eddie Obeid what a pity.
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Count du Monet
30 Nov 2013, 10:54 AM
Not much of a case. Whatever it was it something that occurred when Shorten was 19, long before he had assumed adult life and responsibilites.
So are you saying that because he was 19 yrs of age, that excuses him from raping a girl aged 16!! Who are you?
If your saying that, than I guess, with all the Catholic Priest out there who have ever raped a girl or boy, should be excepted from it, because it was over 3 decades ago!!
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Count du Monet
30 Nov 2013, 10:54 AM
Not much of a case. Whatever it was it something that occurred when Shorten was 19, long before he had assumed adult life and responsibilites.
I guess he was "young and naïve". Seems to be a valid and popular excuse for criminality amongst pollies.
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The rape allegations made against Bill Shorten are refusing to go away:

Woman who accuses Opposition Leader Bill Shorten of rape says police failed her

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