Something made up, invented, or fabricated, as in "The long dishevelled hair, the swelled black face, the exaggerated stature were figments of imagination" (Charlotte Brontë, Jane Eyre , 1847). This term is redundant, since figment means "product of the imagination." [Early 1800s]
Production of the imagination, absolutely describes thoughts, ideas, concepts, even inventions. A concept car is a production of imagination till it's built.
A figment of imagination is an entirely different thing to the human construct of money.
A concept car is not a product of only imagination. If it is entirely imagined then it is a fictional car.
Distinctions are important.
Once you believe distinctions are not important you can create whatever you want as your own private reality.
Obviously i am not describing currency! Currency is real whereas money is a human construct
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The opposite of real is? Unreal, imaginary, fictional
Your behaviour is unreal. Clearly the behaviour exists and is not fictional or imaginary. In that sense it is also real behavior but it is not what i would call normal behaviour and that is what justifies it being unreal.
Currency is real in that it is tangible. You cannot touch money. You cannot touch thoughts but it is madness to say that thoughts are fictional.
not real and existing only in the imagination <the events in the horror movie seemed so real to some fans that they could not believe that the whole thing was fictional>
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry
"Balloon animals are a great way to teach children that the things they love dearly, may spontaneously explode" -- Lee Camp
Based on the English Language, how can you possibly say something is real and is unreal? They are antonyms of each other.
I made it clear that my use of unreal was of a form in common useage which cannot be seen to be accurate, where quite clearly what you are doing is real.
The question that arises from your claim that money is fictional, is what fictional meaning are you claiming is created by saying that money is fictional.
If you believe your useage is correct then you will also believe whatever results are being created in your mind by your useage of fictional money, where evidently nobody is going to be able to persuade you that you are mistaken until you revisit your idea that money is only fictional.
First, I said money is unreal, then I defined unreal by saying imaginary and intangible, money is the measuring tool that we use to keep score, it only exists in our minds, it cannot exist in the real world. It is imaginary, a synonym for imaginary is fiction.
Numbers don't exist, they are representations or symbols of the differentiation and counting of separate real world objects.
If you can write representations of numbers into a ledger that then creates money, then money doesn't exist because the numbers don't exist, in any real fashion. I'm not talking mathematical real or imaginary, I'm talking generally accepted views of real as something you can see, smell, taste, touch or hear.
Numbers are imaginary, they are fiction, they are useful though, they help us quantify the world around us. Unless you're a Platonist and believe in Plato's Heaven, numbers don't exist anywhere in the multiverse, nor does money, it is an idea, a concept, and abstract thought. A bit like time, the future doesn't exist, nor does the past, not from our linear perception of it, but that leads us off into M-theory, which is a much bigger topic than I can really be bothered with.
We use currency as a convenient way to represent the money we measure our value of wealth with.
Fiat money is more fictional than the old gold standard money was too, fiat money is decreed to be valuable by the state, people simply accept that it has value, even though it is represented by worthless paper and simple metal currencies. The currently circulating Australian $1 and $2 coins first minted in the 1980's have always been made of 92% copper, 6% aluminium, and 2% nickel. Silver hasn't circulated in our currency since the mid 1960's.
Gold was accepted by the general public to be a store of wealth long before governments became involved, because of its relatively rare occurrence and high resistance to decay, I'm not a gold hoarder, it will never regain its old place as currency, fiat is (sort of) much easier to deal with.
The concept of money is the value of wealth we once stored in gold and now store in the faith we are meant to have in our governments.
Before money was used, we used barter, which causes many problems, because you had to negotiate your different assets to find a the value of worth that your counterpart in the transaction held.
Debt is real, it's an agreement to provide fictional money for the transfer of goods or services. People expect the good or service valued at the price the state places on the currency exchanged.
Behaviour is an action, actions are real, they cannot be unreal. Thoughts are abstract, they are unreal, until you act on your thoughts.
It's like anything that happens in nature cannot be unnatural, or supernatural, because nature is all encompassing, as soon as something happens, it was natural for it to happen.
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry
"Balloon animals are a great way to teach children that the things they love dearly, may spontaneously explode" -- Lee Camp
First, I said money is unreal, then I defined unreal by saying imaginary and intangible, money is the measuring tool that we use to keep score, it only exists in our minds, it cannot exist in the real world. It is imaginary, a synonym for imaginary is fiction.
Numbers don't exist, they are representations or symbols of the differentiation and counting of separate real world objects.
If you can write representations of numbers into a ledger that then creates money, then money doesn't exist because the numbers don't exist, in any real fashion. I'm not talking mathematical real or imaginary, I'm talking generally accepted views of real as something you can see, smell, taste, touch or hear.
Numbers are imaginary, they are fiction, they are useful though, they help us quantify the world around us. Unless you're a Platonist and believe in Plato's Heaven, numbers don't exist anywhere in the multiverse, nor does money, it is an idea, a concept, and abstract thought. A bit like time, the future doesn't exist, nor does the past, not from our linear perception of it, but that leads us off into M-theory, which is a much bigger topic than I can really be bothered with.
We use currency as a convenient way to represent the money we measure our value of wealth with.
Fiat money is more fictional than the old gold standard money was too, fiat money is decreed to be valuable by the state, people simply accept that it has value, even though it is represented by worthless paper and simple metal currencies. The currently circulating Australian $1 and $2 coins first minted in the 1980's have always been made of 92% copper, 6% aluminium, and 2% nickel. Silver hasn't circulated in our currency since the mid 1960's.
Gold was accepted by the general public to be a store of wealth long before governments became involved, because of its relatively rare occurrence and high resistance to decay, I'm not a gold hoarder, it will never regain its old place as currency, fiat is (sort of) much easier to deal with.
The concept of money is the value of wealth we once stored in gold and now store in the faith we are meant to have in our governments.
Before money was used, we used barter, which causes many problems, because you had to negotiate your different assets to find a the value of worth that your counterpart in the transaction held.
Debt is real, it's an agreement to provide fictional money for the transfer of goods or services. People expect the good or service valued at the price the state places on the currency exchanged.
Behaviour is an action, actions are real, they cannot be unreal. Thoughts are abstract, they are unreal, until you act on your thoughts.
It's like anything that happens in nature cannot be unnatural, or supernatural, because nature is all encompassing, as soon as something happens, it was natural for it to happen.
Whatever notation or language a lifeform uses, there are two planets between Earth and the Sun.
The fact you refuse to count them or do not know how many are there is irrelevant. The answer is two.
Fiat money in a modern money system is not decreed to be valueable. If the state mismanages what it does the money can be worth a fraction of what it is worth today no matter what they decree.
Money is not created by writing numbers into a ledger without there being many other elements in the array, which then in totally gives the single detail being focused upon, its correct meaning . It is logically incorrect to pick on a detail and create meaning without also simultaneously seeing the entire picture. For example you need capital, customers, savers, investors and some method of enforcing your repayments such as courts or heavies.
Fairly obviously you are seeing something that does not exist and you are calling it money. Oddly you are concluding that debt is real even while concluding that what is owed is fictional!
You clearly don't understand, I'm clearly terrible at explaining. fi·at /ˈfēät/ Noun A formal authorization or proposition; a decree. An arbitrary order. Synonyms order - ordinance - decree - command - edict
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Money by Decree
The "fiat" part of fiat money means an arbitrary order or decree, such as what government might enact. This means that fiat money has value as money simply because government says so. Government issues an order, decree, or law stating that fiat money is valuable. Period. But, can this really work? Consider how many people regularly violate other government laws and decrees. How many people regularly violate traffic laws?
It works when government decrees that people can use fiat money to pay their taxes. Any item that is accepted by government for tax payments is well on its way to being the generally accepted medium of exchange. http://www.amosweb.com/cgi-bin/awb_nav.pl?s=wpd&c=dsp&k=fiat+money
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“Creating” money We should probably clarify the term “create”. When we use this term, we refer to the process used to bring money into existence. The Bankers create money out of nothing, simply by writing numbers in their ledger books, and then giving loans to the American people with this money, allowing them to write checks on the numbers written in their accounts, and then requiring payment with interest. Money is nothing but numbers, be it numbers in a ledger book, on checks, or on dollar bills. Using this process, most banks are legally allowed to lend out up to 50 times of what they have on deposit, creating the money out of nothing and then charging interest on it. You have to admit that it is quite a racket!. And the Federal Reserve prints the paper money we use in circulation, the Federal Reserve Notes, by having numbers printed on pieces of paper of little value, since a few cents will print a $1 bill or a $10,000 bill (at the same cost). Money is very cheap to make, and whoever has the legal right to create the money in a nation can make a tremendous profit. http://www.michaeljournal.org/fedreserve.htm
If you have a note handy, you will find the words "This Australian Note Is Legal Tender Throughout Australia And Its Territories" that is its declaration of value.The number on the note declares that the note is swappable for an amount of good or services equal to its number, this changes, because we have a floating currency, which is why (almost all) central banks' only reason for being (supposedly) is to keep inflation in check.This explains the US Federal Reserve in a very nice way, unfortunately, they use the words money and currency as most people do, interchangeably, but they are actually subtly different concepts. It does seem a bit conspiratorial sometimes, but it really is how the modern banking system started. On a side note, I love how they've named him Pile, it works so well with some of the dialog.
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry
"Balloon animals are a great way to teach children that the things they love dearly, may spontaneously explode" -- Lee Camp
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