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It ain't a bubble 'cause it didn't bust; bull 'n bear discuss ...
Topic Started: 5 Oct 2013, 11:28 PM (2,761 Views)
herbie
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Bull: It ain't a bubble 'cause it didn't bust.

Bear: Whatcha mean? The guv propped it up!

Bull: Yeah; But it didn't bust - So it AIN'T a bubble!

Bear: So when/if guv runs outta funds ta prop it up 'n it busts it'll be a bubble?

Bull: Yeah!

Bear: OK - I understand now - Ta ... :re:
Edited by herbie, 5 Oct 2013, 11:37 PM.
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
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stinkbug
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Me: It aint a bubble because yields are still too high, and because it didn't rise enough, and because population has been compressing into existing dwellings.

Anyone else: <insert response here>
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While it's true that those who win never quit, and those who quit never win, those who never win and never quit are idiots.

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It's a bubble because we need rich chinese and SMSF investors. :re:
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Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments.
Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck!
See here
Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
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It's a bubble because the average person probably earns about $60k and cannot buy an average apartment or average home for $180k.
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I don't get it. Real Sydney house prices are not yet as high as they were in 2003.

How can anyone describe that as a bubble?
Collecting desperation.
Ex-Bp Golly April 2 2015. "I see with a slight overshoot -70% [fall in Sydney house prices] as being well within possibility"
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Bull: You can't tell if a bubble exists until after it has popped.
Bear: If it walks like a bubble, talks like a bubble, and acts like a bubble. It's a bubble.
Shadow was hopelessly wrong about the Gold Bull Market.
What else is he wrong about?
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Shadow
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It's not a bubble because house prices nationally have simply tracked incomes for more than a decade. In the case of Sydney, incomes have grown much faster than house prices over the past decade, and now house prices are starting to catch up, hence the strong growth in Sydney.
Edited by Shadow, 6 Oct 2013, 08:23 AM.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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herbie
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Shadow
6 Oct 2013, 08:23 AM
It's not a bubble because house prices nationally have simply tracked incomes for more than a decade. In the case of Sydney, incomes have grown much faster than house prices over the past decade, and now house prices are starting to catch up, hence the strong growth in Sydney.
Hmmm - So that would that make it a (relatively) new paradigm then? :re:
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
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Shadow
6 Oct 2013, 08:23 AM
It's not a bubble because house prices nationally have simply tracked incomes for more than a decade.
Bullshit. They have tracked the ABS definition of houshold income which is constantly modified to make the statistics look better and suck in more investors. Now it includes adult children's incomes, who haven't moved out of home because they spend all their money on mobile phone bills and take away.
Shadow was hopelessly wrong about the Gold Bull Market.
What else is he wrong about?
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It certainly ain't no bubble because it certainly hasn't busted.

Idiots will say that prices will crash in the next 2 yrs, more idiots will say that prices will increase 10+% in the same time. So, it's up to the individual to decide what to do with their $$ .
If you have listened to the extremists in their price predictions then you are a retard.

Realize, there will be rises, booms & contractions butt, property will usually crap over cash.
What is maintained over time, continues to appreciate in value & rise in rental returns.

Those who have maintained their port folios in the long term are the happy vegemites.
Newjerk? can you try harder than dig up another person's blog. My first promo was with Billabong and my name in English is modified with a T, am Perth born but also lived in Sydney to make my $$
It's Absolutely Fabulous if it includes brilliant locations, & high calibre tenants..what more does one want? Understand the power of the two "P"" or be financially challenged
Even better when there is family who are property mad and one is born in some entitlements.....Understand that beautiful women are the exhibitionists we crave attention, whilst hot blooded men are the voyeurs ... A stunning woman can command and takes pleasure in being noticed. Seems not too many understand what it means to hold and own props and get threatened by those who do.
Banks are considered to be law abiding and & rather boring places yeah not true . A bank balance sheet will show capital is dwarfed by their liabilities this means when a portions of loans is falling its problems for the bank.
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