Monogamy has evolved in humans sure there are primitive cultures who are polygamous.But todays modern humans are monogomous
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A few recent studies have come up with two theories on why humans are monogamous.
In one study, researchers believe that monogamy evolved because other males, of the same species, would kill the offspring in order to mate with the mother. Mammals breast feed their young for a long period of time, leaving them out of the mating pool for extended periods of time. Males, competing for the females, would kill the offspring, making the female available for mating again. The study, completed at the University College London, looked at 230 different primate species and determined that, before social traits for monogamy developed, there was a high rate of outside males killing babies. Once the primates began pairing up with one specific mate, the rate of killing decreased. [1]
Another study, completed by Dieter Lukas of the University of Cambridge, also looked at how monogamy developed but he came to a different conclusion. He found that females began to spread out in order to find better sources of food. In an effort to keep other males from impregnating the females, males would stay close to the females. According to Tim Clutton-Brock, a zoology professor and co-author of the study, ates, “Males cannot successfully defend more than one female.” [2]
Dr. Sue Johnson if the Alliant International University and the University of Ottawa, believes humans are naturally monogamous. She points out that monogamy is in cultures (human and animal) where time and effort is put into raising children. She also believes “we are wired for monogamy.” According to Johnson, “A huge part of our brain is deisigned not just for social group interaction but for the intimate synchorony of emotional connection and bonding...Monogamous mammals like s have special cuddle hormones, like oxytocin or OT, the so-called molecule of monogamy. It turns off stress hormones, turns on reward centers and fills us with calm contentment and well-being. OT is released at orgasm and even when simply thinking of our partner!...When scientists increase OT in little monogamous prairie voles, they cuddle more and mate less. When they block OT, they mate but don’t cuddle. Our brains are wired for a certain kind of connection.” [3]
Dr. Johnson explains that once we make an attachment bond, it is to one “irreplaceable” person and it is that person we seek closeness with. Our natural inclination toward monogamy, she says, is why, even when a married person strays, he or she often still fights to keep their relationship intact.
The reasons or evolution of monogamy may never be completely known or understood. Whether innate or learned, our civilization is, for the most part, monogamous. Despite the constant barrage of news stories about successful men and women having affairs, only about 25 percent of married people have an affair outside of their marriage. And the large majority of adults in the United States find extra-marital affairs to be morally wrong.
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... i have been married 27 years. My poor suffering wife. ... I put forward that a wife that truly loves her husband knows he is a man, knows a man is wired to fuck anything he can. ... After all he/we are men. ...
The male Fruitfly's Marriage vow:
"I'm a bloke 'n'll poke everything 'n anything I can. You're a sheila 'n you'll understand because ya love me."
There are those of us who'd feel 'grubby' playing 'round on their missus. 'N those of us who wouldn't.
I'm in the former camp. 'N you're in the latter. I've got no issues with that ...
There is no justification for people seriously risking their marriage vows.
Even, before marriage, I steered clear of the married /attached men bad bad news, 2nd best is the position that these women would be in, & seriously how would you really feel knowing your screwing someone's man?? Come on I don't think it's invigorating.
In my situation, my husband was married previously, it failed due to his ex wife screwing ,..a business associate... fortunately no kids eventuated in the 2 yr relationship, he was betrayed & closed the door, it was a point of no return.
When we met, we took time with each other, we lived together, before getting married 4 yrs later, as a lady with a multi million PF I am choosy with who I have a relationship with.
I am in no danger of him screwing around as he has been hurt in the past.
I have no intentions of doing the same.
He is safe,...we are one.
Newjerk? can you try harder than dig up another person's blog. My first promo was with Billabong and my name in English is modified with a T, am Perth born but also lived in Sydney to make my $$ It's Absolutely Fabulous if it includes brilliant locations, & high calibre tenants..what more does one want? Understand the power of the two "P"" or be financially challenged Even better when there is family who are property mad and one is born in some entitlements.....Understand that beautiful women are the exhibitionists we crave attention, whilst hot blooded men are the voyeurs ... A stunning woman can command and takes pleasure in being noticed. Seems not too many understand what it means to hold and own props and get threatened by those who do. Banks are considered to be law abiding and & rather boring places yeah not true . A bank balance sheet will show capital is dwarfed by their liabilities this means when a portions of loans is falling its problems for the bank.
It seems that Eileen didn't read any studies and didn't even read her source material.
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Both teams did agree that they wouldn't quite put humans in the monogamous category.
Clutton-Brock said his study found species that are monogamous have fewer physical differences between the genders. They are about the same size, live about as long. That's not humans.
Opie agreed, saying: "Strict monogamy, such as (with) the gibbons, is not what humans do."
Dr Sue bandies around statistics that I can't even remotely find, the closest is:
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Marriage Infidelity Statistics
Percent of marriages where one or both spouses admit to infidelity, either physical or emotional Percent of men who admit to committing infidelity in any relationship they’ve had Percentage of women who admit to committing infidelity in any relationship they’ve had Percent of married men who have strayed at least once during their married lives Percent of married women who have strayed at least once during their married lives Percentage of men and women who admit to having an affair with a co-worker Percentage of men and women who admit to infidelity on business trips Percentage of men and women who admit to infidelity with a brother-in-law or sister-in-law Average length of an affair Percentage of marriages that last after an affair has been admitted to or discovered Percentage of men who say they would have an affair if they knew they would never get caught Percentage of women who say they would have an affair if they knew they would never get caught Percent of children who are the product of infidelity
The other reference, a paper by Kevin MacDonald (http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/West-TOQ.htm) clearly attributes monogamy to the rise of the Catholic church. A forced social imposition.
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry
"Balloon animals are a great way to teach children that the things they love dearly, may spontaneously explode" -- Lee Camp
Various unis have courses on Sexology these days I gather Kulganis. I spent an evening chatting with a part time lecturer in same, his lady 'n a family member earlier in the year. I found it generally interesting in some ways. But not totally fascinating as such. One either does or they don't maybe?
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer:"negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
Various unis have courses on Sexology these days I gather Kulganis. I spent an evening chatting with a part time lecturer in same, his lady 'n a family member earlier in the year. I found it generally interesting in some ways. But not totally fascinating as such. One either does or they don't maybe?
Yeah, not saying monogamy shouldn't happen, or that it is not good, all I'm saying is that it isn't biologically 'normal'.
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Humans happily wrestle with other instincts, most of the time, we just need to be aware that it is an instinct for humans to be polygamists.
Like this instinct, hidden in spoilers because most people are conditioned to find it gross:
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Scott Napper, an associate professor of biochemistry at the University, has suggested that there may be health benefits to that most icky of icky habits: picking our noses and eating it.
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry
"Balloon animals are a great way to teach children that the things they love dearly, may spontaneously explode" -- Lee Camp
"I'm a bloke 'n'll poke everything 'n anything I can. You're a sheila 'n you'll understand because ya love me."
There are those of us who'd feel 'grubby' playing 'round on their missus. 'N those of us who wouldn't.
I'm in the former camp. 'N you're in the latter. I've got no issues with that ...
Hi Herbie, Thanks. Peter
Blondie girl
4 Oct 2013, 06:17 PM
holy craps Peter I'm NOT on the same page as you.
There is no justification for people seriously risking their marriage vows.
Even, before marriage, I steered clear of the married /attached men bad bad news, 2nd best is the position that these women would be in, & seriously how would you really feel knowing your screwing someone's man?? Come on I don't think it's invigorating.
In my situation, my husband was married previously, it failed due to his ex wife screwing ,..a business associate... fortunately no kids eventuated in the 2 yr relationship, he was betrayed & closed the door, it was a point of no return.
When we met, we took time with each other, we lived together, before getting married 4 yrs later, as a lady with a multi million PF I am choosy with who I have a relationship with.
I am in no danger of him screwing around as he has been hurt in the past.
I have no intentions of doing the same.
He is safe,...we are one.
Blondie, I really say well done. I know you are very happy. Good luck and keep up the fight. Peter
Yeah, not saying monogamy shouldn't happen, or that it is not good, all I'm saying is that it isn't biologically 'normal'.
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Humans happily wrestle with other instincts, most of the time, we just need to be aware that it is an instinct for humans to be polygamists.
Like this instinct, hidden in spoilers because most people are conditioned to find it gross:
Spoiler: click to toggle
Scott Napper, an associate professor of biochemistry at the University, has suggested that there may be health benefits to that most icky of icky habits: picking our noses and eating it.
Rape and violence is biologically normal in our closest relatives as well.
All your posts have convinced me of, is that a minority of civilisations have become exactly that - civilised - and monogamy is part of that social structure that separates us from animals.
Those supporting polygamy are regressives, not progressives. If you want to live Lord of the Flies style, do it outside the bounds of civilisation.
Property speculation is a type of gambling... But everyone knows that in gambling, the house always wins in the end.
Rape and violence exist in our current civilisation, but that's not the point, rape and violence is non-consensual by their very nature whereas polygamy and monogamy amongst humans should be entirely about consent.
Humans are not separate from animals, if you're alive and not a plant, then you're an animal.
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry
"Balloon animals are a great way to teach children that the things they love dearly, may spontaneously explode" -- Lee Camp
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