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The Marriage Crisis Hurts Social Mobility; Implications for Australia
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herbie
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Veritas
4 Oct 2013, 12:03 PM
Fuck that was funny! Ta Veritas ... :lol
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
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I agree, was an awesome clip, thank you.
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry

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Hmmm - Final comment on this (for a while anyway?) : An ole workmate of mine had six wives last time we were specifically talking about it. I didn't actually feel ta envy him as he was telling me a bit about what it entails - 'Course, some might suggest he'd 'overdone' it a bit I guess? :re:
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
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Dr Watson
4 Oct 2013, 08:52 AM
Just a suggestion Peter - what about adding some comments of your own?
Yes I can do that. I thought that this was an interesting article. The points that I get from it are:-

1. The tendency towards unions that keep breaking down rather than formal marriages does create an underclass, especially amongst women with children to more than one partner.

2. Two wage earners clearly have a superior buying power that allows them to purchase a better home and share the burden of the repayments, whilst a single person has to save all of the deposit themsleves and make all of the repayments, upkeep on the house, rates etc etc.

I think that's pretty much self explanatory. I hadn't really thought about the class aspect before, but I can see that a couple who remain together and do sensible things with their money would accumulate more wealth over a lifetime than others who move in and out of relationships and thus don't ever do things like buy and pay off a home, save together for retirement etc. I mean lifetime relationships whether they are or are not a formal marriage as opposed to a more Bohemian lifestyle.

I never talk to single mums with seven children and a defacto boyfriend who has only been around for a few months, because they would never be able to save a deposit, or pay off a home. Financially they and most of their offspring are pretty miuch doomed to a lifetime in the underclass, except for an exceptional few. In short our more relaxed social views has created more losers than in earlier times when social views and less government encouragement (Centrelink Payments) for that lifestyle restricted the number of people who chose that lifestyle.


What the article didn't cover was the financially debilitating event of a divorce, when perhaps a hitherto well funded union suddenly becomes self destructive. I clean up quite a few of those and regardless of whether it's the male of female, it always causes financial hardship unless they are very wealthy.
Edited by peter fraser, 4 Oct 2013, 12:24 PM.
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The Duke of Brisbane Town

Friends, I hear a lot of the chit chat around Brisbane Town here, and a lot of people aint happy with their marriages.

Truth about married life in modern Brisbane Town

It aint looking too good up here friends.
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Tell Billy Jack the Truth
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peter fraser
4 Oct 2013, 12:21 PM
Yes I can do that. I thought that this was an interesting article. The points that I get from it are:-

1. The tendency towards unions that keep breaking down rather than formal marriages does create an underclass, especially amongst women with children to more than one partner.

2. Two wage earners clearly have a superior buying power that allows them to purchase a better home and share the burden of the repayments, whilst a single person has to save all of the deposit themsleves and make all of the repayments, upkeep on the house, rates etc etc.

I think that's pretty much self explanatory. I hadn't really thought about the class aspect before, but I can see that a couple who remain together and do sensible things with their money would accumulate more wealth over a lifetime than others who move in and out of relationships and thus don't ever do things like buy and pay off a home, save together for retirement etc. I mean lifetime relationships whether they are or are not a formal marriage as opposed to a more Bohemian lifestyle.

I never talk to single mums with seven children and a defacto boyfriend who has only been around for a few months, because they would never be able to save a deposit, or pay off a home. Financially they and most of their offspring are pretty miuch doomed to a lifetime in the underclass, except for an exceptional few. In short our more relaxed social views has created more losers than in earlier times when social views and less government encouragement (Centrelink Payments) for that lifestyle restricted the number of people who chose that lifestyle.


What the article didn't cover was the financially debilitating event of a divorce, when perhaps a hitherto well funded union suddenly becomes self destructive. I clean up quite a few of those and regardless of whether it's the male of female, it always causes financial hardship unless they are very wealthy.
Yes Peter.
With being busted/bankrupted by the ATO being another of life's great potential risks - Which is why I tend to be rather critical of those who suggest that having a go at playing somewhat footloose 'n fancy free with that dude just might be worth a crack.
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herbie
4 Oct 2013, 01:45 PM
Yes Peter.
With being busted/bankrupted by the ATO being another of life's great potential risks - Which is why I tend to be rather critical of those who suggest that having a go at playing somewhat footloose 'n fancy free with that dude just might be worth a crack.
Yep the ATO can be tough to deal with, but a divorce is tougher.

It becomes a financial challenge just when you're not emotionally up to it.

As the judge said in an old song "It's cheaper to keep her"
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In a situation of wealth, there is substantial assets to work it out, I can think of a certain developer in my mind.

It really varies, sometimes people don't play nice, I've seen it with friends, & associates, it really is the lawyers who are laughing all the way to the bank. Famiily bonds sometimes destroyed , permanently, sides taken up, interesting how each has a different version to tell their troubles sometimes.

Eg. "Screwing a younger woman, coz he's not happy anymore in his marriage."

Yeah
The look, the suggestive touch,...& a proposition, so you think wow someone else wants me bad, feels great ....

Hang on!!
I'm married to a man that's been to hell with me, we've been through good & bad times, since 1996, we just "click" we can say anything & everything, we can be serious & silly. We've conquered some painful events. Its friggin made us appreciate everything & what we have, I'm not just meaning $$.

Yeah, it's called monogamy & I love it with all my heart.

We have A couple of rules..

.If you're having a bad day don't take it out on spouse/kids
.Treat others how you want to be treated
.Don't treat your spouse like shit in front of others
You look but don't touch :re: (we both like to perve..sometimes well have a good laugh)
.Never hit each other..if it gets to this level, we call it quits...zero tolerance.
.No screwing around

Be true to yourself & others , otherwise eff off & bloody work it out.

Newjerk? can you try harder than dig up another person's blog. My first promo was with Billabong and my name in English is modified with a T, am Perth born but also lived in Sydney to make my $$
It's Absolutely Fabulous if it includes brilliant locations, & high calibre tenants..what more does one want? Understand the power of the two "P"" or be financially challenged
Even better when there is family who are property mad and one is born in some entitlements.....Understand that beautiful women are the exhibitionists we crave attention, whilst hot blooded men are the voyeurs ... A stunning woman can command and takes pleasure in being noticed. Seems not too many understand what it means to hold and own props and get threatened by those who do.
Banks are considered to be law abiding and & rather boring places yeah not true . A bank balance sheet will show capital is dwarfed by their liabilities this means when a portions of loans is falling its problems for the bank.
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Zero is coming...

Blondie girl
4 Oct 2013, 02:47 PM
In a situation of wealth, there is substantial assets to work it out, I can think of a certain developer in my mind.

It really varies, sometimes people don't play nice, I've seen it with friends, & associates, it really is the lawyers who are laughing all the way to the bank. Famiily bonds sometimes destroyed , permanently, sides taken up, interesting how each has a different version to tell their troubles sometimes.

Eg. "Screwing a younger woman, coz he's not happy anymore in his marriage."

Yeah
The look, the suggestive touch,...& a proposition, so you think wow someone else wants me bad, feels great ....

Hang on!!
I'm married to a man that's been to hell with me, we've been through good & bad times, since 1996, we just "click" we can say anything & everything, we can be serious & silly. We've conquered some painful events. Its friggin made us appreciate everything & what we have, I'm not just meaning $$.

Yeah, it's called monogamy & I love it with all my heart.

We have A couple of rules..

.If you're having a bad day don't take it out on spouse/kids
.Treat others how you want to be treated
.Don't treat your spouse like shit in front of others
You look but don't touch :re: (we both like to perve..sometimes well have a good laugh)
.Never hit each other..if it gets to this level, we call it quits...zero tolerance.
.No screwing around

Be true to yourself & others , otherwise eff off & bloody work it out.

Hi Blondie,
i have been married 27 years.
My poor suffering wife.
Anyway.
I always ask ladies one question.
If or rather when you find out your husband is having an affair, do you
A) leave him
B) understand that he still loves you and support him through this experience?
C) have you lawyer file the divorce papers?
I put forward that a wife that truly loves her husband knows he is a man, knows a man is wired to fuck anything he can.
And does.
And still loves his wife and family. Like why wouldn't you??????
Just because you like the dizzywizzy and the slippery dip your not a "Cheater" as many wives like to call their perfectly normal husbands.
After all he/we are men.
And those young girls that like married men, (thank god) bless their little cotton sock's are just perfect to.
The true truth or deep truth as the Dervish call it can be painful.
For me the deep truth is liberating.
As it allows me to see the fabric of reality.
Not live in the delusion that many find acceptable. (possibly comforting)
You have worked out something that works for you Blondie.
Well done.
Peter from Perth
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foxbat101
4 Oct 2013, 04:36 PM
Hi Blondie,
i have been married 27 years.
My poor suffering wife.
Anyway.
I always ask ladies one question.
If or rather when you find out your husband is having an affair, do you
A) leave him
B) understand that he still loves you and support him through this experience?
c) have you lawyer file the divorce papers?
I put forward that a wife that truly loves her husband knows he is a man, knows a man is wired to fuck anything he can.
And does.
And still loves his wife and family. Like why wouldn't you??????
After all he is a man.
The true truth or deep truth as the Dervish call it can be painful.
For me the deep truth is liberating.
As it allows me to see the fabric of reality.
Not live in the delusion that many find acceptable.
You have worked out something that works for you.
Well done.
Peter from Perth
:tu:

You better hope your wife doesn't read that peter!
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