Also, it's political portfolio mismanagement by stupid retarded Polly's who brazenly waste the tax $$ in their policies .
Politics should not be for people who are ex union baggers, manipulaters that have the gift of the gob for their own self gratification, & losers.
Those tax dollars have been wasted to keep property prices high and rising, fool, because self entitled thieves like you demanded it.
Gift of the gob, hah, so they're good at spitting?
I say politicians should all be old piss heads like Churchill. Although I don't know how he would have treated the middle and lower classes in peace time.
stinkbug omosessuale Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments. Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck! See here Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
We're not blaming children who don't vote, but we really can't blame those who recently became voters either, if we are blaming politicians, it is those who participated in the voting game and even if all those who are under 35 voted for a better class of politician, there is a vast majority over 35 who have the balance of power.
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"I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way: I don't vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain,' but where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote -- who did not even leave the house on Election Day -- am in no way responsible for what these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created." - George Carlin
Rubbish You don't choose to vote then ohhh you don't have ANY right to complain because you chose NOT to exercise your democratic right to make a voice of your wishes to who you wanted to elect.
themoops
20 Sep 2013, 09:56 AM
Those tax dollars have been wasted to keep property prices high and rising, fool, because self entitled thieves like you demanded it.
Gift of the gob, hah, so they're good at spitting?
I say politicians should all be old piss heads like Churchill. Although I don't know how he would have treated the middle and lower classes in peace time.
Here we go here we go .... I c a dumb person.
That self entitled shit mantra. Idiot, moron...well that's you honey dummy.
Regarding the gift of the gob well spitting is not gonna get anyone anywhere, I think sucking & sweet talking does the trick that where 1 uses their gob properly.
Churchill? Well he's long gone, focus on the future not the past. Retard.
Newjerk? can you try harder than dig up another person's blog. My first promo was with Billabong and my name in English is modified with a T, am Perth born but also lived in Sydney to make my $$ It's Absolutely Fabulous if it includes brilliant locations, & high calibre tenants..what more does one want? Understand the power of the two "P"" or be financially challenged Even better when there is family who are property mad and one is born in some entitlements.....Understand that beautiful women are the exhibitionists we crave attention, whilst hot blooded men are the voyeurs ... A stunning woman can command and takes pleasure in being noticed. Seems not too many understand what it means to hold and own props and get threatened by those who do. Banks are considered to be law abiding and & rather boring places yeah not true . A bank balance sheet will show capital is dwarfed by their liabilities this means when a portions of loans is falling its problems for the bank.
Rubbish You don't choose to vote then ohhh you don't have ANY right to complain because you chose NOT to exercise your democratic right to make a voice of your wishes to who you wanted to elect.
Heh, well, see, I am one of those informal voters, because none of the parties that were on offer caught my attention, both the main parties are thoroughly disreputable, lying vote seekers.
Whereas you have happily numbered all the boxes you could find, and then turn around and complain about the thoroughly disreputable, lying vote seekers, who you participated in voting in.
By the way, do you know that Australia is the only developed country to have enforced compulsory voting?
It was introduced in 1924. Because they found that there weren't enough voters coming to elections, rather than fix the cause (disreputable lying vote seeking candidates) they simply forced people to show up.
Your argument is invalid, I chose to exercise my democratic right to make my voice heard that I felt none of the candidates were up to scratch.
You voted for the least poisonous, or the one most likely to give you what you want, or even the prettiest candidate, without regard for policy, not based on what Australia as a whole needs.
Clearly stupid and somewhat insane people vote, this cheapens the value of my vote, to my mind, does it not to yours?
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry
"Balloon animals are a great way to teach children that the things they love dearly, may spontaneously explode" -- Lee Camp
You saying that coz voting is compulsory in Oz have some of us "robots" been ummm forced to vote?
I agree that no political party is perfect but there is those in the population who do have an interest in the way things are progressing in this beautiful nation. Unfortunately it's human nature to never agree, if we all agreed life would be boring.
I can see your perspective but you haven't convinced me.
Newjerk? can you try harder than dig up another person's blog. My first promo was with Billabong and my name in English is modified with a T, am Perth born but also lived in Sydney to make my $$ It's Absolutely Fabulous if it includes brilliant locations, & high calibre tenants..what more does one want? Understand the power of the two "P"" or be financially challenged Even better when there is family who are property mad and one is born in some entitlements.....Understand that beautiful women are the exhibitionists we crave attention, whilst hot blooded men are the voyeurs ... A stunning woman can command and takes pleasure in being noticed. Seems not too many understand what it means to hold and own props and get threatened by those who do. Banks are considered to be law abiding and & rather boring places yeah not true . A bank balance sheet will show capital is dwarfed by their liabilities this means when a portions of loans is falling its problems for the bank.
You saying that coz voting is compulsory in Oz have some of us "robots" been ummm forced to vote?
I agree that no political party is perfect but there is those in the population who do have an interest in the way things are progressing in this beautiful nation. Unfortunately it's human nature to never agree, if we all agreed life would be boring.
I can see your perspective but you haven't convinced me.
If you don't vote, you get fined, about $72.
If you don't pay the fine, it goes to the infringement court, the fine has some administrative charges added, if you still don't pay the fine, you can go to jail.
If this isn't force, I don't know what is.
It may be pretty benign, very much unlike vote or die, but still there are consequences if you don't do your duty. Notice duty means obligation.
Quote:
du·ty
Noun 1. A moral or legal obligation; a responsibility: "it's my duty to uphold the law".
2. (of a visit or other undertaking) Done from a sense of moral obligation rather than for pleasure: "a fifteen-minute duty visit".
I'm not trying to convince you, I can see that it would be an undertaking that I am not prepared nor have a duty to undertake.
I'm just pointing out that if you want to blame politicians, even if you didn't directly vote for them, you still support the game by continuing to play the game and so must blame yourself first.
I blame voters, outright, the politicians are just doing what has been expected of them.
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry
"Balloon animals are a great way to teach children that the things they love dearly, may spontaneously explode" -- Lee Camp
I blame voters, outright, the politicians are just doing what has been expected of them.
Well the Polly's don't do always what the people want they do not act favorably.
Eg carbon tax Broken promises by many Polly's
Eg. Proposing a development that does not eventuate.
Newjerk? can you try harder than dig up another person's blog. My first promo was with Billabong and my name in English is modified with a T, am Perth born but also lived in Sydney to make my $$ It's Absolutely Fabulous if it includes brilliant locations, & high calibre tenants..what more does one want? Understand the power of the two "P"" or be financially challenged Even better when there is family who are property mad and one is born in some entitlements.....Understand that beautiful women are the exhibitionists we crave attention, whilst hot blooded men are the voyeurs ... A stunning woman can command and takes pleasure in being noticed. Seems not too many understand what it means to hold and own props and get threatened by those who do. Banks are considered to be law abiding and & rather boring places yeah not true . A bank balance sheet will show capital is dwarfed by their liabilities this means when a portions of loans is falling its problems for the bank.
Which brings me back to one of my favourite quotes
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“The Ephebians believed that every man should have the vote (provided that he wasn't poor, foreign, nor disqualified by reason of being mad, frivolous, or a woman).
Every five years someone was elected to be Tyrant, provided he could prove that he was honest, intelligent, sensible, and trustworthy.
Immediately after he was elected, of course, it was obvious to everyone that he was a criminal madman and totally out of touch with the view of the ordinary philosopher in the street looking for a towel.
And then five years later they elected another one just like him, and really it was amazing how intelligent people kept on making the same mistakes.” - Terry Pratchett - Small Gods
Do you really expect the current system of government to be different? All they are looking at is the next election.
I'm fairly sure i remember John Howard saying that there would never be a GST while he was in office. It's not just Labor who tells fibs.
What happened to the parties that set up Telecom, or the Snowy Hydro Scheme?
Both of which were hugely expensive and took ages to implement, but neither of which we could now do without.
What happened to vision, to drive, apart from the next election?
The hydro scheme cost 121 lives, the pink batt scheme cost 4, and we have more people decrying how bad Labor was for doing it. Even though it wasn't Labor who caused said deaths, but the shoddy companies that sprung up to take the money. (not to say that any deaths is a good thing, just a bit of context)
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry
"Balloon animals are a great way to teach children that the things they love dearly, may spontaneously explode" -- Lee Camp
Definition of a doom and gloomer from 1993 The last camp is made up of the doom-and-gloomers. Their slogan is "it's the end of the world as we know it". Right now they are convinced that debt is the evil responsible for all our economic woes and must be eliminated at all cost. Many doom-and-gloomers believe that unprecedented debt levels mean that we are on the precipice of a worse crisis than the Great Depression. The doom-and-gloomers hang on the latest series of negative economic data.
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry
"Balloon animals are a great way to teach children that the things they love dearly, may spontaneously explode" -- Lee Camp
Definition of a doom and gloomer from 1993 The last camp is made up of the doom-and-gloomers. Their slogan is "it's the end of the world as we know it". Right now they are convinced that debt is the evil responsible for all our economic woes and must be eliminated at all cost. Many doom-and-gloomers believe that unprecedented debt levels mean that we are on the precipice of a worse crisis than the Great Depression. The doom-and-gloomers hang on the latest series of negative economic data.
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