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Public servants jobs to go, 12,000 at minimum.; Hey funding for NG to keep FHBs out of the market doesn't pay for itself!
Topic Started: 10 Sep 2013, 03:31 AM (5,246 Views)
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Timo
13 Sep 2013, 09:30 PM
NG encourages speculation and infestors like you cherry pick information to justify your greed and general stupidity.

Nice to see your now admitting that your leeching off the tax payer, wear your scum badge with pride!
you know that using so much emotion undermines your ability to sound like you are making a grown up argument right?
I am the love child of Tony Abbott and Pauline Hanson
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Pig Iron
13 Sep 2013, 09:33 PM
you know that using so much emotion undermines your ability to sound like you are making a grown up argument right?
Don't mistake facts for emotion. You do leech, you do cherry pick and NG encourages speculation.
After a bubble has burst, no one denies that it existed. But before it does, the popular refrain is that though bubbles existed elsewhere in the world, “there’s no bubble here”. So housing bubbles are admitted to have existed in Japan, the USA, Spain and Ireland – because they’ve already burst.
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Timo
13 Sep 2013, 09:45 PM
Don't mistake facts for emotion. You do leech, you do cherry pick and NG encourages speculation.
you wouldn't know a fact if it smashed you in the face with a brick.
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newjez
13 Sep 2013, 06:13 PM
No - but if there was a young cyclist who showed bags of potential, and was actually much stronger than the leading cyclists, but he had a really crappy bike because his parents had no money, and the top cyclist wasn't that good, but his parents were rich and bought him a fantastic bike that gave him an advantage - if we gave the good bike to the super fit kid with the crappy bike, we would have a better chance of winning gold at the Olympics.

Socialism can work for the better good, but it works best with capitalism. (if there was no competition all the cyclists would be crap). Communism doesn't work.

Can you not see this?
I agree.
BUT where does the line get drawn.
We want our best at the top.
The other point is and i know i started the bike analogy.
Should OUR money be put into bikes.
You see this is the heart of the issue.
Resources get diverted on a whim into what ever the socialist leaders think is the right thing to put it into.
The world is littered with centrally planed disasters.
My statement is government should be competitive and as small or large as is needed, not as large as a socialist government unbridled can possibly make it.
Nothing can grow exponentially forever.
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Pig Iron
13 Sep 2013, 06:49 PM
in a capitalist world the young gun with lots of potential could get sponsorship for a new bike, he doesn't NEED to rely on his parents to buy it for him.

all you are doing is artificially limiting the potential inputs to get the desired outcome.
So you don't value the input of the Australian Institute of sport?

Why do you think the UK has suddenly improved their sporting performance?

True - this could have come from sponsorship - but the sponsor has their own agenda - which is for the good of their company, not the good of the sport or the good of the country. I think we are getting to the crux of the issue here. Both the state and the private have a part to play, and there should be an optimal balance.
foxbat101
13 Sep 2013, 09:49 PM
I agree.
BUT where does the line get drawn.
We want our best at the top.
The other point is and i know i started the bike analogy.
Should OUR money be put into bikes.
You see this is the heart of the issue.
Resources get diverted on a whim into what ever the socialist leaders think is the right thing to put it into.
The world is littered with centrally planed disasters.
My statement is government should be competitive and as small or large as is needed, not as large as a socialist government unbridled can possibly make it.
Nothing can grow exponentially forever.
Peter

How sport benefits a country is another debate. But change it from sport to education, and the benefits are clearer. As for balance - that depends where you sit on the political spectrum.
Edited by newjez, 13 Sep 2013, 09:54 PM.
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newjez
13 Sep 2013, 09:52 PM
So you don't value the input of the Australian Institute of sport?
actually i'd take an axe to it. much money wasted.

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Pig Iron
13 Sep 2013, 09:48 PM
you wouldn't know a fact if it smashed you in the face with a brick.
Is that what disfigured you? And your still sprinkling property infestment, remarkable. Scared?
Pig Iron
13 Sep 2013, 09:55 PM
actually i'd take an axe to it. much money wasted.
Yes yes yes destroy wasteful spending on our nations most elite sporting organisation, spend more billions on negative gearing for property spruikers!
Edited by Timo, 13 Sep 2013, 10:41 PM.
After a bubble has burst, no one denies that it existed. But before it does, the popular refrain is that though bubbles existed elsewhere in the world, “there’s no bubble here”. So housing bubbles are admitted to have existed in Japan, the USA, Spain and Ireland – because they’ve already burst.
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Timo
13 Sep 2013, 10:39 PM
Is that what disfigured you?
what the fuck are you on about now?
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Pig Iron
13 Sep 2013, 11:40 PM
what the fuck are you on about now?
If the country got rid of say 12,000 per week we would start to see some change.
Peter
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foxbat101
15 Sep 2013, 09:35 AM
If the country got rid of say 12,000 per week we would start to see some change.
Peter
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At least we agree on that!
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