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Goldbugs... what will you do with your gold? What's the point of holding gold?; Will you eventually convert it into real money, or just hoard it for ever?
Topic Started: 4 Sep 2013, 12:53 PM (6,467 Views)
Pig Iron
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Dr Kinetoscope
4 Sep 2013, 02:35 PM
Try this quote on for size:

You never hear them saying it's a good time to sell... their gold spruiker mentors like Kris Sayce never advocate selling - Shadow on GOLD

You never hear them saying it's a good time to sell... their property spruiker mentors like Andrew Wilson never advocate selling - The Doctor on PROPERTY





As of this exact moment, it hasn't been effective for me personally. For others, it has been great. Its a longer term investment, a firm conclusion on it's effectiveness has yet to be reached in my regard.
they dont need to sell to make a profit idiot.
it was already explained to you.
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I buy gold to lose money, and so far it's not working. The value has risen considerably - damn it.

But then again I'm not selling, so what the hell, I'll suffer the gains.

I stay away from bullion. Bullion is where the losses are - I should buy bullion so that I can lose money, because that's the plan.
Any expressed market opinion is my own and is not to be taken as financial advice
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You should buy leveraged property trusts then peter, that way you can do property and avoid all the steep transaction fees associated with buying and selling houses.

As for the losses associated with bullion, well it was $20 in 1920, $35 in 1940, $200 in 1990 and $1400 dollars today ($US dollars). Take of $80 for the perth mint spread and you can still get $1500 Australian an ounce today if you want to sell it. So if you bought say 4 years ago at $1000 an ounce you are up 50%. And that is after a huge correction in the price. If you bought 2 years ago you are still down a couple of hundred and will have to wait a year or so.

As to the poll, well I don't do polls but I will hang onto my gold until I want to spend it on whatever, or I will sell it if the price gets sufficently high that I feel it has begun topping out of it's long term bull. Either way I doubt it will ever go back to below what I paid for it. And especially not while the world is in the financial mess that it currently experiences.
Shadow was hopelessly wrong about the Gold Bull Market.
What else is he wrong about?
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5 Sep 2013, 12:58 AM
As for the losses associated with bullion, well it was $20 in 1920, $35 in 1940, $200 in 1990 and $1400 dollars today ($US dollars).
Pretty lame arsed result

Gold up 7500%
Sydney property up 42,000% in the same timeframe. (Sydney median price 1920 was $1650)

82 ounces of gold bought that house
Today the gold is worth $124,000
The house is worth $690,000
And imagine how much rent it would have generated over that time Vs the ZERO yield of gold.
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Pig Iron
4 Sep 2013, 10:17 PM
they dont need to sell to make a profit idiot.
it was already explained to you.
I see the point flew right over your head. As usual.

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The Indian blah blah blah<br />Good enough reason?
Nope
I dont live in India - do you?
He pointed to a good example of where Gold has preserved wealth due to fiat fluctuations. Is there any need to alter his quotes/take the piss Frank?
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Frank Castle
5 Sep 2013, 01:16 AM


Gold up 7500%
Sydney property up 42,000% in the same timeframe. (Sydney median price 1920 was $1650)
Cherry pick the data why don't you. 1920 was a market low unprecidented in Sydney prices, after that they bounced back before declining for 30 years. And you then choose Sydney at it's bubble peak? You RE types couldn't lie straight in bed. I could have easily included the 1980 peak in gold at $850 but that would have given people a misleading impression of how gold keeps pace with inflation over time. Goldbugs don't need to pad the data, to cherry pick, to lie like the real estate crowd do.

1920, lowest all time. You bought property at a bubble top old chap. You are rooted :lol

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Shadow was hopelessly wrong about the Gold Bull Market.
What else is he wrong about?
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I can just picture a gold holder on special occasions pulling the carpet back, lifting the floor boards, retrieving their gold stash and spreading it out on a nice table with table cloth. They will most likely don their best apparel whilst they studiously admire their collection of ingots, coinage, jewellery and ornaments carefully laid out glistening in the light only its holder can enjoy such beauty then carefully remove it, pack it and place it back in safekeeping with a feeling of contentment and surety knowing that they will bring it out and look at it sometime again in the future.


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peter fraser
4 Sep 2013, 10:32 PM
I buy gold to lose money, and so far it's not working. The value has risen considerably - damn it.

But then again I'm not selling, so what the hell, I'll suffer the gains.

I stay away from bullion. Bullion is where the losses are - I should buy bullion so that I can lose money, because that's the plan.
when gold can tell the time it has much more value Peter. Holding cast bars in a safe seems like such a waste on so many levels.
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5 Sep 2013, 12:58 AM
You should buy leveraged property trusts then peter, that way you can do property and avoid all the steep transaction fees associated with buying and selling houses.

As for the losses associated with bullion, well it was $20 in 1920, $35 in 1940, $200 in 1990 and $1400 dollars today ($US dollars). Take of $80 for the perth mint spread and you can still get $1500 Australian an ounce today if you want to sell it. So if you bought say 4 years ago at $1000 an ounce you are up 50%. And that is after a huge correction in the price. If you bought 2 years ago you are still down a couple of hundred and will have to wait a year or so.

As to the poll, well I don't do polls but I will hang onto my gold until I want to spend it on whatever, or I will sell it if the price gets sufficently high that I feel it has begun topping out of it's long term bull. Either way I doubt it will ever go back to below what I paid for it. And especially not while the world is in the financial mess that it currently experiences.
Thanks for your concern goldbug. Gold was $275 USD in 2000 in HK when I first bought, although I have never considered it an investment.
I'm not particularly interested in bullion, but best of luck with yours.
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goldbug
5 Sep 2013, 02:38 AM
Cherry pick the data why don't you. 1920 ......
.....was the date you picked you idiot.
I didnt cherry pick anything.

Face it, Gold is a shit investment with ZERO yield
Specufestors at their worst.
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