No, actually he's not correct, though I don't have the same vituperative intent in saying so as "doubleview".
The actual Citytrain travel time from Roma St (the gathering point of all southern-Brisbane lines) to Fortitude Valley is 4 minutes. But scheduled dwell time adds at least a minute at Roma St, and up to 9 minutes (though typically 1-4 minutes) at Central, depending on the service involved.
Add in the slow progress across the Merivale bridge (restricted to 40 km/h even at the best of times, and a chokepoint if there is any breakdown), and the addition dwell times at South Brisbane, South Bank, and Park Road, and any Cleveland-line or Beenleigh-line origin faces a considerable time-disadvantage in commuting to Fortitude Valley, compared to *any* north-side train (Ferny Grove, Caboolture, Shorncliffe, or Doomben line), over *any* equivalent number of stops.
Trains coming in from Richlands or Ipswich don't face the Merivale bridge, but still encounter added dwell times at Milton, Roma St., and Central.
Scheduled dwell times from the south-side are the nail in Frank's argument.
exactly !!
Hows those apples Frank!
Frank Castle
2 Sep 2013, 11:04 PM
I dont "think" I caught you out I DID catch you out - no denying it, unless you are a LIAR of course
Showing you for what you are - feeling under pressure are you? If you had any decency or guts you would apologise for being such a wanker But as you clearly dont have either, I wont be holding my breath waiting
No need I have already itemised, counted out and spelt it out for you right here Did you miss it? The 10 LIES of doubleview Thanks for that MIW
Its a shame doubleview isn't man enough to accept that fact.
Ha Ha feeling under pressure !! how fucken delusional are you!!!
You got caught out as vested interest filth, Its as simple as that!!
If you want to see how a cornered rat acts when hes backed into a corner go over and read the narrative from start to finish @ this forum topic:
Those apples are fine dipshit. Lets look at ACTUAL times shall we Just looked on translink and worked on stations 13klm +- .5klm from the cbd by RAIL LENGTH leaving after 8am
North Keppera 13.5klm is 27 minutes Nudgee 13klm is 23 minutes Sunshine 12.4 is 24 minutes
South Cannon Hill 12.6klm is 26 minutes Salisbury 13klm is 26 minutes Oxley 13 klm is 25 minutes
Only a few minutes in it
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Ha Ha feeling under pressure !! how fucken delusional are you!!!
Says the one who repeatedly lies - Gets caught out and then tries to make out it never happened and every one else is crazy
Massive delusion right there - get help, you need it.
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If you want to see how a cornered rat lying sack of shit acts when hes backed into a corner go over and read the narrative from start to finish @ this forum topic:
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Thanks all for your comments, only just getting back to the thread and just read the comments (arguments :)) on the commuting which is all helpful. Also 'Sober' thanks for reply and yes schools play a big factor, the little one is only 2 but need to find the right area with decent school. Speak later cheers guys.
OK. I guess if you consider the time it takes for a train to get through the city makes any place to live on the other side of the city non-viable, then it makes it non-viable. But the same arguments pretty-much make any place on the south side of the river non-viable if you work in the CBD because of the Merivale bridge. Obviously not everyone takes this view.
Each to their own!!
Sober pretty much explains it in a nutshell.
If your working @ the valley suburbs close to Toombul Nundah stations like Wavell heights, Chermside you can pick up 3 bedders for (450-500k) look great value to me.
Suggestion number 1 JJ: Stick to your $450K budget (that you are comfortable with I can only assume) despite any others talking about $500K.
Suggestion number 2: Bear in mind that travelling by road on the north side can OFTEN/USUALLY(?) be a right bitch - In the times when most people want to travel; Though yep, train's passable - I've only personally been annoyed by a drunk schizo that was pretty obviously off his meds once - 'Course I don't personally travel by either train or road that much being a FIFO type.
Suggestion number 3: Listen to the dudes who are saying have a VERY GOOD look before buying - As a Sydney type dude you could SURELY spend WAY more than is required here and think you'd done OK - Eg: IF you WERE actually happy to go out to Caboolture and spend an hour travelling each way, it's quite possible you could buy for a mortgage of less than $25K rather than $250K - NOT that I'm recommending that in ANY way - Am SIMPLY saying. (PS: I went to Caboolture once at 11 am - 'N thought to meself: "I'm not sure I'd want to be here at 11 pm.")
Suggestion number 4: Re the trains, be aware that some stations have 'express' services - Have never especially looked into it myself - Though in general just don't get the impression the potential premium on prices is fully capitalised in yet. (Could be wrong - But that's my thought regardless.) 'N if you were thinking of linking my suggestions no 3 'n 4 togerther in any way at all, think Petrie rather than Caboolture perhaps? And just maybe there's 'express' stations closer in? - I just genuinely don't know.
Those apples are fine dipshit. Lets look at ACTUAL times shall we Just looked on translink and worked on stations 13klm +- .5klm from the cbd by RAIL LENGTH leaving after 8am
North Keppera 13.5klm is 27 minutes
Keperra to Fortitude Valley is ACTUALLY 18 minutes. 08:11 - 08:29
Nudgee 13klm is 23 minutes
There is a semi-express at 08:15 that takes 21 minutes. 08:15 - 08:36
Sunshine 12.4 is 24 minutes
Sunshine to Fortitude Valley is ACTUALLY 21 minutes. 08:00 - 08:21
South Cannon Hill 12.6klm is 26 minutes
Cannon Hill to Fortitude Valley is ACTUALLY 29 minutes. 08:05 - 08:34
Salisbury 13klm is 26 minutes
Salisbury to Fortitude Valley is ACTUALLY 32 minutes. 08:16 - 08:48
Oxley 13 klm is 25 minutes
Oxley to Fortitude Valley is ACTUALLY 29 minutes. 08:07 - 08:36
Seems you were a bit careless about the OP's "ACTUAL" requirement to commute to Fortitude Valley, eh Frank...?
It's also worth noting that your "RAIL LENGTH" figures inflate the "as the crow flies" distances from the CBD to suburbs served by the Beenleigh and Cleveland lines, because of the non-optimal routing over the Merivale bridge.
herbie
3 Sep 2013, 03:14 PM
Suggestion number 1 JJ: Stick to your $450K budget (that you are comfortable with I can only assume) despite any others talking about $500K.
Suggestion number 2: Bear in mind that travelling by road on the north side can OFTEN/USUALLY(?) be a right bitch - In the times when most people want to travel; Though yep, train's passable - I've only personally been annoyed by a drunk schizo that was pretty obviously off his meds once - 'Course I don't personally travel by either train or road that much being a FIFO type.
Suggestion number 3: Listen to the dudes who are saying have a VERY GOOD look before buying - As a Sydney type dude you could SURELY spend WAY more than is required here and think you'd done OK - Eg: IF you WERE actually happy to go out to Caboolture and spend an hour travelling each way, it's quite possible you could buy for a mortgage of less than $25K rather than $250K - NOT that I'm recommending that in ANY way - Am SIMPLY saying. (PS: I went to Caboolture once at 11 am - 'N thought to meself: "I'm not sure I'd want to be here at 11 pm.")
Suggestion number 4: Re the trains, be aware that some stations have 'express' services - Have never especially looked into it myself - Though in general just don't get the impression the potential premium on prices is fully capitalised in yet. (Could be wrong - But that's my thought regardless.) 'N if you were thinking of linking my suggestions no 3 'n 4 togerther in any way at all, think Petrie rather than Caboolture perhaps? And just maybe there's 'express' stations closer in? - I just genuinely don't know.
Anyway, good luck regardless ...
I missed where he said he had a $450K budget, but I agree with your advice on sticking to it--with one caveat. There are plenty of decent $450K houses available on Brisbane's north side, but precious few near good schools. He'll have to decide how he wants to handle that in 3 years time.
That just reinforces your "Suggestion #3", which I'd restate as: when moving to a new city, rent before you buy, even if only for a few months. The Brisbane real-estate market isn't moving particularly fast anyway, and even if he loses out on some minor capital gains, renting briefly will return so much more in terms of "buyer education".
Re "Suggestion #4" regarding "express services", the problem with those is that you can't rely on them remaining stable over time. QR adjusts their scheduling at least once a year, and their decisions are based on Translink funding, which in turn is subject to the whims of the State Government of the day. If rail transit times are critical, it's best to assume "all-stops" services, and take any express running as a bonus.
Keperra to Fortitude Valley is ACTUALLY 18 minutes. 08:11 - 08:29
And 25 minutes return I am sure other routes can and do have different times as well
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Re "Suggestion #4" regarding "express services", the problem with those is that you can't rely on them remaining stable over time.
And yet you yourself used an express service to get a better time against me
At the end of the day, north vs south has a few minutes in it, so for you to be arguing the point is rather pedantic. What next, how many cm, metres and kilometres he is from the station? What about the footwear he uses to walk there? Will Nike be better than Adidas? Or the car he uses, will it be better to be running e10 or premium?
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And 25 minutes return I am sure other routes can and do have different times as well
And yet you yourself used an express service to get a better time against me
At the end of the day, north vs south has a few minutes in it, so for you to be arguing the point is rather pedantic. What next, how many cm, metres and kilometres he is from the station? What about the footwear he uses to walk there? Will Nike be better than Adidas? Or the car he uses, will it be better to be running e10 or premium?
Dear me, Frank, you do get rather grumpy--or should I say pedantic--when caught on the wrong side of an argument.
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It seems pretty obvious to me that you used times to Central Station, rather than Fortitude Valley (per the OP's "ACTUAL" requirement), either as a mistake you just can't bring yourself to admit to, or some weird, desperate attempt to make a point you can't actually back up.
Maybe you thought nobody would actually check your assertions with Translink?!?
But rest assured, Frank, if I see a doddering old man in the Brisbane CBD, looking confused and answering to "Frank", I'll point him back at Wynnum...
Dear me, Frank, you do get rather grumpy--or should I say pedantic--when caught on the wrong side of an argument.
Says the pedant quibbling over a few minutes here or there
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It seems pretty obvious to me that you used times to Central Station, rather than Fortitude Valley (per the OP's "ACTUAL" requirement), either as a mistake you just can't bring yourself to admit to, or some weird, desperate attempt to make a point you can't actually back up.
I used central because it is CENTRAL I could not be bothered changing the stations for destination and wasnt that interested in a minute or 2 saving to make a point Read that as me being not as PEDANTIC as you.
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But rest assured, Frank, if I see a doddering old man in the Brisbane CBD, looking confused and answering to "Frank", I'll point him back at Wynnum...
And now it gets all upset so throws out some childish insults what was it you said......Thats right
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you do get rather grumpy--or should I say pedantic
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I used central because it is CENTRAL I could not be bothered changing the stations for destination and wasnt that interested in a minute or 2 saving to make a point Read that as me being not as PEDANTIC as you.
No, you used Central because either
a) You couldn't be bothered actually reading the thread carefully, including the OP's requirements of a Fortitude Valley destination stated within it, or
b) You were too lazy to use the correct destination station on the Translink site.
Either way, you simply got it wrong, and can't bring yourself to admit it.
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