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What is the definition of "overpriced"?
Topic Started: 30 Aug 2013, 01:08 PM (6,030 Views)
Trojan
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We all hear this term thrown around a lot but what do people here think is the actual definition of "overpriced"?
The question is not whether Australian housing is overpriced or what are evidence something being overpriced.

My understanding is this: Overpriced means sellers demands a higher price than the buyers are willing to pay for it and is very similar to the term "under-demanded"
Edited by Trojan, 30 Aug 2013, 01:10 PM.
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Shadow
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I'd say anything is overpriced if an equivalent 'thing' is available at a lower price.
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2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Catweasel say a over-priced based on sensitivity of mouse.

It can test quite the easy.

But a Van Westerndorp only the tell part of narrative.

To dig a deep about a too expensive,

it need to drill deep into skull of mouse,

to get the insight.
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I believe that when buying property, you need the folowing principles:

.Objectivity
. Pragmatism
. Research what is currently happening

If a home is not correctly priced, it just will not sell, we have all seen those properties lingering...all the 3 principles were not implemented. You avoid ....

We all wish to purchase a property that presents good value..

I'm sure we've all bought items ..other than property ..bought it full price then see it being advertised cheaper a few weeks later ....a dud deal which makes you feel conned ;)

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Trojan
30 Aug 2013, 01:08 PM
We all hear this term thrown around a lot but what do people here think is the actual definition of "overpriced"?
The question is not whether Australian housing is overpriced or what are evidence something being overpriced.

My understanding is this: Overpriced means sellers demands a higher price than the buyers are willing to pay for it and is very similar to the term "under-demanded"
For me the supply=demand price only tells you whether something is overpriced or under priced in the short term. In the long term the price of an asset should be determined by cost/return ratio. Unfortunately with housing this is much more complex then many people realise eg:

- simply looking at gross/net yield does not tell you every thing about a property; yields can be low if the underlying asset can provide much higher yields with further investment; i hear people saying - the rent on a house is 2 or 3% yield so it is over priced but you can upgrade that house; build a new house and get 5% - 6% yield which is what many owners plan to do at some stage
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Shadow
30 Aug 2013, 01:13 PM
I'd say anything is overpriced if an equivalent 'thing' is available at a lower price.
So simple and yet 100% correct.
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Best answered with: What is Market Value

According to IVS:
Market value is defined as the estimated amount for which an asset should exchange on the date of valuation between a willing buyer and a willing seller in an arms length transaction after proper marketing, wherein they had acted knowledgeably, prudently and without compulsion.
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snoopy
30 Aug 2013, 01:29 PM
For me the supply=demand price only tells you whether something is overpriced or under priced in the short term. In the long term the price of an asset should be determined by cost/return ratio. Unfortunately with housing this is much more complex then many people realise eg:

- simply looking at gross/net yield does not tell you every thing about a property; yields can be low if the underlying asset can provide much higher yields with further investment; i hear people saying - the rent on a house is 2 or 3% yield so it is over priced but you can upgrade that house; build a new house and get 5% - 6% yield which is what many owners plan to do at some stage
That might be true for investments but what about other items bought for consumption like a home or a car or a TV?
Edited by Trojan, 30 Aug 2013, 01:35 PM.
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Blondie girl
30 Aug 2013, 01:27 PM
I believe that when buying property, you need the folowing principles:

.Objectivity
. Pragmatism
. Research what is currently happening

If a home is not correctly priced, it just will not sell, we have all seen those properties lingering...all the 3 principles were not implemented. You avoid ....

We all wish to purchase a property that presents good value..

I'm sure we've all bought items ..other than property ..bought it full price then see it being advertised cheaper a few weeks later ....a dud deal which makes you feel conned ;)

I tend to be a late adopter of technology so I waited til I could get my 40" flat screen TV for $400.
Had a quiet chuckle at the guy from work who paid $6000 a few years earlier for a rear projection TV. It was out on his front lawn a few months ago.

Skamy will probably tell me off for waiting around for TV prices to crash.
Edited by Elastic, 30 Aug 2013, 01:43 PM.
Only a rat can win a rat race.

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Simple, buying an asset with shit yields or even negative income.
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