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RP Data Weekly Dwelling Price Index Update August 2013; Perth joins Sydney at a new all-time record high peak
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Shadow
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newjez
21 Aug 2013, 11:04 AM
So how is Perth going on RP Data then? Roaring ahead? Are we looking at 15% yet in this buying boom? Funny, the bulls have gone quiet about RP Data? Steinberger? Mike?
Why are you spamming this question into so many threads?

Perth is up 10% YOY and 4% QOQ according to RP Data.

(the chart is just three posts above, you can't miss it!)

Looks like it will be down a bit this week though... is that what you're getting excited about?

You do this every time Perth has a little dip. I think you need to look at the long term trend and not get too excited about weekly volatility.
Edited by Shadow, 21 Aug 2013, 11:16 AM.
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4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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newjez
21 Aug 2013, 11:04 AM
So how is Perth going on RP Data then? Roaring ahead? Are we looking at 15% yet in this buying boom? Funny, the bulls have gone quiet about RP Data? Steinberger? Mike?
You missed the bottom of the market some time ago. Prices have climbed significantly in the last year.

You should of bought Q3 2011, we are now in a new upcycle, and its early days too.

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21 Aug 2013, 11:12 AM
I thought you stated in another thread that prices were above their peak? They do not seem that to me?
I said national prices are above their 2010 peak on the ABS index.

They are 0.9% below 2010 peak on the RPData index.
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2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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newjez
21 Aug 2013, 11:04 AM
So how is Perth going on RP Data then? Roaring ahead? Are we looking at 15% yet in this buying boom? Funny, the bulls have gone quiet about RP Data? Steinberger? Mike?
Spamming every thread hey.

Ok then. It appears as though Reiwa is wrong on July as most indices have July up 1% or more for Perth. August so far from a sales point of view has been a stronger month then July. The strong FHB frenzy underway at present will also boost sales in August and September until the grant changes o September 15th. New house sales will be a little slower until then and then it will switch from stronger growth for new houses from established for FHB.

If you want am estimate to current growth, well we know the ABS has growth up to June 2013 of 11%. Since Then RPData has growth in the current September quarter of 4%. We also know that RPdata has constantly been more bearish with its figures then the ABS for the last year which is shown in the figures.

Just using these figures Perth could already be over 15% or close to it with over 1/3 of the year remaining. Perth may get over 20% once all the data is in next year.

http://mike-globaleconomy.blogspot.com.au/
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21 Aug 2013, 11:18 AM
You missed the bottom of the market some time ago. Prices have climbed significantly in the last year.

You should of bought Q3 2011, we are now in a new upcycle, and its early days too.
It's called a bull trap
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newjez
21 Aug 2013, 11:04 AM
So how is Perth going on RP Data then? Roaring ahead?
Why are you suddenly so obsessively interested in RP Data?

A short while ago you wrote:
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But RP data for Perth is just too volatile to be of help to anyone.


I believe RP data shows Perth up 10% over 12 months and up 4% over the last quarter. Very similar to the rises shown by the ABS.
Soul Torpor
21 Aug 2013, 11:31 AM
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You should of bought Q3 2011, we are now in a new upcycle, and its early days too.

It's called a bull trap
I see. You believe that Perth prices will soon fall to below their level of Q3 2011. When?
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Mike
21 Aug 2013, 11:31 AM
Spamming every thread hey.

Ok then. It appears as though Reiwa is wrong on July as most indices have July up 1% or more for Perth. August so far from a sales point of view has been a stronger month then July. The strong FHB frenzy underway at present will also boost sales in August and September until the grant changes o September 15th. New house sales will be a little slower until then and then it will switch from stronger growth for new houses from established for FHB.

If you want am estimate to current growth, well we know the ABS has growth up to June 2013 of 11%. Since Then RPData has growth in the current September quarter of 4%. We also know that RPdata has constantly been more bearish with its figures then the ABS for the last year which is shown in the figures.

Just using these figures Perth could already be over 15% or close to it with over 1/3 of the year remaining. Perth may get over 20% once all the data is in next year.
Perth 599.93 -0.98 +4.45% +9.82%

http://www.rpdata.com/research/daily_indices.html

Oh dear - it's dropped below 10% for Perth. It's no longer double figures. Looks like the sky is falling.
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newjez
21 Aug 2013, 11:37 AM
Perth599.93-0.98+4.45%+9.82%

http://www.rpdata.com/research/daily_indices.html

Oh dear - it's dropped below 10% for Perth. It's no longer double figures. Looks like the sky is falling.
Which bit of you missed the bottom of the market do you not understand ?

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Catweasel say it quite the bizarre.

A index in a control over sandpit,

whether it a rapscall, anti-mouzealot, or mouzealot.

Emotion and a activity heat the up,

whenever index the mention,

and narrative and emotion start to flow.

It remind it of HAL computer.
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21 Aug 2013, 11:31 AM
It's called a bull trap
id say it's more likely we are turning Canadian
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