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David Llewellyn-Smith blogging today here:

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Then what strode to the wicket was not so much a gangling half Australian, half Sri Lankan youth as it was a gigantic Black Swan, waddling in from Perth like some feathered behemoth.


That statement is absolutely false. Ashton was born in Melbourne and is 100% Australian.
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Strindberg
12 Jul 2013, 11:36 AM
David Llewellyn-Smith blogging today here:




That statement is absolutely false. Ashton was born in Melbourne and is 100% Australian.
Is MB now commenting on sports? I know they're desperate for alternative income streams - perhaps they should set up an online sports betting service. Why stop at sports they could profit on punting on PMs, house prices, house rents and how many times they ban PF.
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Strindberg
12 Jul 2013, 11:36 AM
David Llewellyn-Smith blogging today here:




That statement is absolutely false. Ashton was born in Melbourne and is 100% Australian.
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Strindberg
12 Jul 2013, 11:36 AM
David Llewellyn-Smith blogging today here:




That statement is absolutely false. Ashton was born in Melbourne and is 100% Australian.
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Then what strode to the wicket was not so much a gangling half Australian, half Sri Lankan youth as it was a gigantic Black Swan, waddling in from Perth like some feathered behemoth.


So why is this racist?
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Strindberg
12 Jul 2013, 11:36 AM
David Llewellyn-Smith blogging today here:




That statement is absolutely false. Ashton was born in Melbourne and is 100% Australian.
Australians are not a race neither are Sri Lankans. Its a nationally hope u know the difference so what is your point?
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12 Jul 2013, 03:32 PM
Australians are not a race neither are Sri Lankans. Its a nationally hope u know the difference so what is your point?
Yes, its true that Australian and Sri Lankan refers to nationality rather than race.

But DLS, after some attacks, has clarified that he was referring to ethnicity rather than nationality here, by which he digs himself into a much deeper and dirtier hole, and which leaves his remark still entirely false.

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July 12, 2013 at 9:23 am

Actually, if he has a passport he’s an Aussie to me.

I meant his ethnicity.


So he was actually saying that Ashton is 50% an ethnic Australian, which in the usual usage of the term means an aboriginal Australian, and 50% Sri Lankan which is no ethnic group at all. What possible purpose could there be behind DLS's attempt to reveal Ashton's ethnicity other than perhaps to indicate that he is is not fully Australian? Why the need to identify ethnicity if not to discriminate between the ethnicity of Ashton and the other Australian cricketers whose ethnicity he has not remarked on?

According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, here.

DLS's mindset is similar to the several commenters on MB who complain about the presence of "Chinese" people at property auctions who are most probably Australian citizens.






Edited by Strindberg, 12 Jul 2013, 05:02 PM.
Housing costs to Income broadly unchanged since 1994 - re-ratified here
The People of Australia have the highest median wealth in the World
2002-2012 10 year house price growth the SLOWEST since 1952-1962
"There are two kinds of people in this world: ones that fiddle around wondering whether a thing's right or wrong and guys like us." (Hugo to Gagin in Ride the Pink Horse)
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Strindberg
12 Jul 2013, 05:00 PM
Yes, its true that Australian and Sri Lankan refers to nationality rather than race.

But DLS, after some attacks, has clarified that he was referring to ethnicity rather than nationality here, by which he digs himself into a much deeper and dirtier hole, and which leaves his remark still entirely false.




So he was actually saying that Ashton is 50% an ethnic Australian, which in the usual usage of the term means an aboriginal Australian, and 50% Sri Lankan which is no ethnic group at all. What possible purpose could there be behind DLS's attempt to reveal Ashton's ethnicity other than perhaps to indicate that he is is not fully Australian? Why the need to identify ethnicity if not to discriminate between the ethnicity of Ashton and the other Australian cricketers whose ethnicity he has not remarked on?

According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, here.

DLS's mindset is similar to the several commenters on MB who complain about the presence of "Chinese" people at property auctions who are most probably Australian citizens.





I believe it is ok to comment on race or ethnically if it is in context and non discriminating. I think it was a bad play on words but not intentionally discrimination or even discrimination at all. I don't like people confusing race and ethnicity. He can be half or full sri Lankan and still 100% ozzy if he was born here. People seem to think you have to choose. A lot of people think Hispanic is a race as well.
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