I'm uk country and get a pitiful 25mbps. It's sometimes a bit slow when I'm working from home and doing chunky stuff. Plus I've been dropping out a bit since I've started listening to spotify as well.
Whenever you have an argument with someone, there comes a moment where you must ask yourself, whatever your political persuasion, 'am I the Nazi?'
I'm curious what all these people feel they need greater than 25Mbps for. You can watch standard definition video at 2Mbps. Not sure what 1080p is under any kind of reasonable compression, but does anyone (legally) offer full streaming movies/TV in 1080p anyway? Video conferencing, remote working can all be done on far less than 25Mbps...
Sure, a very small number of people will need more than ADSL2+/4G can deliver, but for a very small number of people, they can get private fibre, or do link aggregation. Exactly why do most people need that fast an internet connection?
It's like a Harbor Bridge or Snowy Mountains scheme thing. What's wrong with just having it there? I'm no expert in how the internet is going to turn out in the future, but we sure needed the Harbor Bridge and the Mountains Scheme.
stinkbug omosessuale Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments. Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck! See here Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
I have ADSL 2 and am not constrained by the speed of the Internet connection, but rather the speed of the sites I visit. News Ltd sites are extremely slow and downloading from apple stores is much slower than my connection should allow. etc. etc.
I see the need for faster Internet, but not the need for a uniform speed for all users, nor a uniform platform.
So why spend tax payer money developing something that commercial enterprises have already delivered?
I recognise that I am fortunate and as I live within 5 km of the Sydney GPO not everyone is going to receive the same commercial solution I receive.
Also speed capacity is needed to be much more than 25mbps as the number of internet connected devices in your home increases. You need redundancy to get a non-compromised simultaneous download/streaming position.
I'm fully in agreement with moops on this one.
“You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means” - Inigo Montoya
So why spend tax payer money developing something that commercial enterprises have already delivered?
I recognise that I am fortunate and as I live within 5 km of the Sydney GPO not everyone is going to receive the same commercial solution I receive.
Also speed capacity is needed to be much more than 25mbps as the number of internet connected devices in your home increases. You need redundancy to get a non-compromised simultaneous download/streaming position.
I'm fully in agreement with moops on this one.
Google have a 1000Mb/sec connection on trial in the US.
I don't doubt we need fast internet. My only doubt is that the government can do a better (effective and efficient) job of delivering such capabilities than the private sector. While national coverage is a good ideal the extensive distances and low population density make it an absurd ideal.
If people choose to live hours away from a centralised population they need to accept the realities of that. In much the same way that it would be nice if everyone had a hospital within ten minutes of their house it would be awesome for everyone to have super internet. Reality is its just not viable.
Remember Bill Gates - 'you'll never need more than 640K memory in a computer'
Whether or not this quote is real - the message is the same. You will always need more speed. To limit yourself, and to limit your ability to expand is foolish. We don't know what the internet will be used for in 10/20/30 years time.
Whenever you have an argument with someone, there comes a moment where you must ask yourself, whatever your political persuasion, 'am I the Nazi?'
Remember Bill Gates - 'you'll never need more than 640K memory in a computer'
Whether or not this quote is real - the message is the same. You will always need more speed. To limit yourself, and to limit your ability to expand is foolish. We don't know what the internet will be used for in 10/20/30 years time.
I need you to come out and talk with the local villagers near my rural retreat.
NBN just announced they are getting a tower on their hill, but they don't want it. They are concerned about the radiation, despite the fact they have all have their tons of coal and wood stockpiled for the comming winter!
They have been onto all the groups such as the Environmental Defenders Office, who thankfully have told them they can't do anything about it.
I just hope the NBN don't now dump the buggers to the back of the queue.
I'll be more than happy to get 10megs a second out there
I need you to come out and talk with the local villagers near my rural retreat.
NBN just announced they are getting a tower on their hill, but they don't want it. They are concerned about the radiation, despite the fact they have all have their tons of coal and wood stockpiled for the comming winter!
They have been onto all the groups such as the Environmental Defenders Office, who thankfully have told them they can't do anything about it.
I just hope the NBN don't now dump the buggers to the back of the queue.
I'll be more than happy to get 10megs a second out there
Sorry, double post !
Nimby boomers.
stinkbug omosessuale Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments. Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck! See here Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
I'd love a fibre-to-the-curb connection; my family and I could make extensive use of it.
If for one second I believed that the NBN could be delivered even remotely on-time / on-budget / to all targeted coverage areas, I would be all for it.
But it won't be so. Based on inside information from senior NBN project managers, this will end up as (Pink Batts + BER) x 10, when the Royal Commission (and there will be one, once the Coalition really catches on...) is finished.
- The physical fibre deployment is in a shambles: wildly behind schedule, and wildly below operational quality. This part has just started to hit the mainstream press.
- The backoffice OSS/BSS architecture is equally seriously behind schedule even in terms of requirements definition, let alone development or deployment. Key executives keep getting replaced when they come up with the "wrong answers" in terms of delivery, in turn pushing back timeframes even further.
Overall, this is a "death march" project for contractors, (though a profitable one for some), and an "Alice in Wonderland" experience for the well-paid but very frustrated NBN internal staff, who would much rather deliver a project that "makes sense" rather than one that attempts-and-fails to meet unworkable political goals.
Yes, well, I predicted exactly this more than 4 years ago now. If fact, my very words were "It will never be built." Not that it can't be built, it just can't be built by an Australian government.
Even if the government were to build a fibre backbone, and let private companies install the 'last mile', it might stand a chance of being built, but both the government and the plutocrats want control of the internet in Australia as it is a dangerous truth telling machine, so fibre to the home it is, and prevent people from having any other access.
The whole point of fibre to the home is to remove the need for any copper, satellite or co-ax connection. One network, one filtering/censorship hub, no choice, no alternative, and government gains back control of the propaganda channels.
Remember Bill Gates - 'you'll never need more than 640K memory in a computer'
Whether or not this quote is real - the message is the same. You will always need more speed. To limit yourself, and to limit your ability to expand is foolish. We don't know what the internet will be used for in 10/20/30 years time.
What if a new type of modulation meant that we could have gigabit wireless in a couple years, towers only need to be every 10km or so? It's not like building extra lanes on the harbour bridge - where as the cost of materials rise, the cost of bandwidth falls over time.
My first 1gbps network card cost $780. You can pick em up for under $15 now...
Property speculation is a type of gambling... But everyone knows that in gambling, the house always wins in the end.
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