The NBN will only cost about 40bn, it's peanuts compared to the 1trillion we make a year. Better to just have overkill than some squirt of piss effort.
Shame we'll lose it. Not that I am overly excited about it. The internet is 99% shit, and the plans aren't much better than cable atm.
If Julia had just done her job of reducing immigration and doing what she said she would she'd have been just as hated as she is now but still widely respected by bears and the young.
stinkbug omosessuale Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments. Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck! See here Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
The NBN will only cost about 40bn, it's peanuts compared to the 1trillion we make a year. Better to just have overkill than some squirt of piss effort.
Shame we'll lose it. Not that I am overly excited about it. The internet is 99% shit, and the plans aren't much better than cable atm.
If Julia had just done her job of reducing immigration and doing what she said she would she'd have been just as hated as she is now but still widely respected by bears and the young.
its going to cost more on maintenance with copper and upgrading it in the future than if we do it one go.
i don't care much for either side but the coalition has been wrong at every turn on the NBN.
Countries overseas have said they have regretted taking the same path that the coalition wants. All the experts are siding with the labour NBN policy.
The coalition is opposiing for the sake of opposing and not acting in Australia's best interest.
If the coalition goes ahead and it will be another "M2" and another shit policy with no foresight.
The Libs are being short sighted and opposing just for because they are the opposition.
No, the libs are opposing it because the NBN threatens the vested interests that pay for the Liberal Party. Interests that make money speculating and not producing anything of value. Their net worth is tied to the geographical concentration of business activity in Australia's capital cities. The NBN threatens that concentration. It's irrelevant anyway. The NBN will be sacrificed once the ponzi basket case Australian economy goes tits up when the mining boom ends.
No, the libs are opposing it because the NBN threatens the vested interests that pay for the Liberal Party. Interests that make money speculating and not producing anything of value. Their net worth is tied to the geographical concentration of business activity in Australia's capital cities. The NBN threatens that concentration. It's irrelevant anyway. The NBN will be sacrificed once the ponzi basket case Australian economy goes tits up when the mining boom ends.
I'd love a fibre-to-the-curb connection; my family and I could make extensive use of it.
If for one second I believed that the NBN could be delivered even remotely on-time / on-budget / to all targeted coverage areas, I would be all for it.
But it won't be so. Based on inside information from senior NBN project managers, this will end up as (Pink Batts + BER) x 10, when the Royal Commission (and there will be one, once the Coalition really catches on...) is finished.
- The physical fibre deployment is in a shambles: wildly behind schedule, and wildly below operational quality. This part has just started to hit the mainstream press.
- The backoffice OSS/BSS architecture is equally seriously behind schedule even in terms of requirements definition, let alone development or deployment. Key executives keep getting replaced when they come up with the "wrong answers" in terms of delivery, in turn pushing back timeframes even further.
Overall, this is a "death march" project for contractors, (though a profitable one for some), and an "Alice in Wonderland" experience for the well-paid but very frustrated NBN internal staff, who would much rather deliver a project that "makes sense" rather than one that attempts-and-fails to meet unworkable political goals.
its funny how you assume that the liberal policy isn't going to be subject to all these delays as well. They are going to happen regardless it's a big project and it's going to cost more if we have to upgrade it retroactively so much more.
its funny how you assume that the liberal policy isn't going to be subject to all these delays as well. They are going to happen regardless it's a big project and it's going to cost more if we have to upgrade it retroactively so much more.
I don't assume anything of the sort. The unpalatable truth is that the current NBN "standard" of near-universal fibre-to-the-curb, mixed with high-end satellite-to-the-bush, is a ridiculously expensive set of goal criteria for internet provision in Australia, a boondoggle that will swamp all previous standards of federal government waste if it is ever fully implemented.
The Coalition will tie itself in knots by failing to acknowledge that they will back away from that "standard". But ultimately they will, and they'll save billions in the process.
And no doubt, they'll lose hundreds, or even thousands of votes in the bush in the process, most of them avid devotees of BitTorrent.
I'm curious what all these people feel they need greater than 25Mbps for. You can watch standard definition video at 2Mbps. Not sure what 1080p is under any kind of reasonable compression, but does anyone (legally) offer full streaming movies/TV in 1080p anyway? Video conferencing, remote working can all be done on far less than 25Mbps...
Sure, a very small number of people will need more than ADSL2+/4G can deliver, but for a very small number of people, they can get private fibre, or do link aggregation. Exactly why do most people need that fast an internet connection?
Property speculation is a type of gambling... But everyone knows that in gambling, the house always wins in the end.
The US is already operating wireless networks for the internet at 100mb or higher in some trial cities and plans to roll it out across the nation. 86% of all US households have access to 100mbp or higher right now, due to cable and wireless tech. IF the US had to build this network today it would not roll out tohusands of miles of cable, when wireless tech does it so much cheaper.
The NBN is the largest waste of money in Australian Govt history, the sooner the Libs get in and can it the better. We dont need 100mbp costing over $40 billion so the likes of moops can tug on his little poodle while watching some porn, or so people can download via bit torrent that few minutes faster.
For all business purposes it is not required at such a massive expense.
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