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More land or newer house?
Topic Started: 25 Jan 2013, 04:32 PM (3,761 Views)
Trojan
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skamy
29 Jan 2013, 11:17 AM
Gosh you sound like a snob - there is nothing wrong with Heathridge - it has good transport links and I know several people who live there. The rents there are good and it is just fine for first home buyers. Lots of upside too when the new zoning comes in.
Its because no one wants to live in below average suburbs that the average suburb's house prices are pushed up so high.
People here point out its a basic human right to have a roof over their heads but when you dig further, they are asking for a lot more than basic protection from the weather.
Everyone wants to OWN a house in an above average (if not premium) area.

Edit: I'm just as guilty as others in wanting to live in an above average area. The only difference is I don't whinge and expect it to be handed to me. Either I work hard for it or I put up with something less.
Edited by Trojan, 29 Jan 2013, 11:52 AM.
I put trolls and time wasters on my ignore list so if I don't respond to you, you are probably on it ....
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I thought Heathridge would be alright, what kind of suburbs north of the river are alright that you can still get a good house for under 500k?

I know up Butler way is a bit dodgy because my friend who lives there keeps having his car windows smashed and there are a lot of cops there.
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PiratePete1911
29 Jan 2013, 04:34 PM
I thought Heathridge would be alright, what kind of suburbs north of the river are alright that you can still get a good house for under 500k?

I know up Butler way is a bit dodgy because my friend who lives there keeps having his car windows smashed and there are a lot of cops there.
I dunno mate, I would say none.

Ask skamy she seems to know...it all. She's a pom and they love north of the river, I guess they don't notice the problems so much. As long as there are a few palm trees in the garden then its smashing, just liyke on 'olidees.

I have a mate who built a cheapy in Doubleview and that seems ok. But you read some pretty nasty stories in the news about that area too. And he has a homeswest house next door with a few brats a dad who sits out the back smoking bongs all day and yelling at his kids...but at least he is not violent bludger. Pot heads make better neighbours than meth heads.

Whatever you do, you should do some serious investigation into your potential neighbours before you buy. There are obviously certain groups you do not want to get stuck living near...regardless of how cheap it may seem.

Is it a human right not to have your car windows smashed?
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Trojan
29 Jan 2013, 11:42 AM
Its because no one wants to live in below average suburbs that the average suburb's house prices are pushed up so high.
People here point out its a basic human right to have a roof over their heads but when you dig further, they are asking for a lot more than basic protection from the weather.
Everyone wants to OWN a house in an above average (if not premium) area.

Edit: I'm just as guilty as others in wanting to live in an above average area. The only difference is I don't whinge and expect it to be handed to me. Either I work hard for it or I put up with something less.
I was really surprised at that- how can people expect to just walk into home ownership in a top suburb? The prices will always stay one step ahead of the ability to save for a deposit. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Heathridge it is a solid working class to middle class area with lots of parks, very green and nice big blocks. It is close to the ocean and close to the motorway and train,and very close if you work in Joondalup.


I know a few folk there and there is a huge rental demand as you can get $250 a week from a granny flat and 450 upward a week for the house. So there is always plenty of investor interest up there. A bit like Sydney's western suburbs, these areas will get a leg up when the market turns for sure.

There is also nothing wrong with Quinn's Rocks,and there is new zoning due there that could prove very advantageous if you plan to stay there a few years. Quinn's is full of Brits as is nearby Mindarie and has huge potential for capital growth when the market picks up.


Quinns Rocks had a population of 7,991 at the ABS 2006 census, an increase of over 1,988 residents since the 2001 census.[10] The population is predicted to continue growing in the future, albeit at a slow pace.[11] Only 57.7% of Quinns Rocks residents were born in Australia, compared to 70.9% nationally. All major immigrant groups in Quinns are from Anglophone countries (e.g. United Kingdom, South Africa, New Zealand) with 19.7% of the population born in the UK, a figure in line with neighbouring suburbs that also share significant British populations, such as Mindarie.[12]
Quinns residents are generally young, with a median age of 31 compared to 37 nationally. Income levels are also substantially above the national average, with an average household income of $1,245 per week, compared to $1,171 per week nationally.









Olmule
29 Jan 2013, 05:27 PM
I dunno mate, I would say none.

Ask skamy she seems to know...it all. She's a pom and they love north of the river, I guess they don't notice the problems so much. As long as there are a few palm trees in the garden then its smashing, just liyke on 'olidees.

I have a mate who built a cheapy in Doubleview and that seems ok. But you read some pretty nasty stories in the news about that area too. And he has a homeswest house next door with a few brats a dad who sits out the back smoking bongs all day and yelling at his kids...but at least he is not violent bludger. Pot heads make better neighbours than meth heads.

Whatever you do, you should do some serious investigation into your potential neighbours before you buy. There are obviously certain groups you do not want to get stuck living near...regardless of how cheap it may seem.

Is it a human right not to have your car windows smashed?
And where does his lordship Mr Olmule,the New Zealander, suggest for a good area to buy for 500K or less?
:D

I have to say it mate but you sound like one of those folk that cringe at any praise of Australia. Sure there are nice places south like freemantle and posh places like peppermint grove but there are loads of other suburbs in Perth that beat the pants off anything you can get in the UK or Ireland. It is great for you to be so high and mighty that you sneer at folk from British or Irish cities enjoying some of the good life here. You have been lucky enough to take these things for granted.

In Sydney 20 yrs ago all the Brits, Irish and New Zealanders headed to Bondi (it was described to us as full of junkies and drunks at that time) and they did not do too badly out of that hey?
Edited by skamy, 29 Jan 2013, 06:23 PM.
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The last camp is made up of the doom-and-gloomers. Their slogan is "it's the end of the world as we know it". Right now they are convinced that debt is the evil responsible for all our economic woes and must be eliminated at all cost. Many doom-and-gloomers believe that unprecedented debt levels mean that we are on the precipice of a worse crisis than the Great Depression. The doom-and-gloomers hang on the latest series of negative economic data.
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skamy
29 Jan 2013, 06:01 PM
And where does his lordship Mr Olmule,the New Zealander, suggest for a good area to buy for 500K or less?
:D

I have to say it mate but you sound like one of those folk that cringe at any praise of Australia. Sure there are nice places south like freemantle and posh places like peppermint grove but there are loads of other suburbs in Perth that beat the pants off anything you can get in the UK or Ireland. It is great for you to be so high and mighty that you sneer at folk from British or Irish cities enjoying some of the good life here. You have been lucky enough to take these things for granted.

In Sydney 20 yrs ago all the Brits, Irish and New Zealanders headed to Bondi (it was described to us as full of junkies and drunks at that time) and they did not do too badly out of that hey?
I'm not a kiwi bro.

I just said Doubleview was probably ok. Close to beach, closeish to the city. Maybe Karrinyup or Gwelup. Further north and it gets pretty sad, pretty quickly. Not sure what you get for your money in these burbs...probably not much.

FYI - We already have our Bondi, it is called Cottesloe. People have been hoping Scabs wil become nice for decades...but it just keeps getting worse (drunks, bikies, junkies and the usual suspects)

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Olmule
30 Jan 2013, 07:48 AM
I'm not a kiwi bro.
Skamy's not a pom, dude.
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timmy
28 Jan 2013, 09:58 AM
i think quinn rocks and butler are full of homes west and drug labs? i'd be careful buying up there as there's been a lot of trouble lately.

Shit .....houses with built in incomes. Perth is going forwards in leaps and bounds.
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Simon
30 Jan 2013, 08:01 AM
Skamy's not a pom, dude.
Are you sure?

I'm positive she said she moved to Sydney 20yrs ago or something like that.
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Olmule
30 Jan 2013, 07:48 AM


I just said Doubleview was probably ok. Close to beach, closeish to the city. Maybe Karrinyup or Gwelup. Further north and it gets pretty sad, pretty quickly. Not sure what you get for your money in these burbs...probably not much.

FYI - We already have our Bondi, it is called Cottesloe. People have been hoping Scabs wil become nice for decades...but it just keeps getting worse (drunks, bikies, junkies and the usual suspects)


Cottesloe is nice no doubt about it but that is more like a Rose bay or Potts Point in Sydney. Double view, Karrinyup, etc are nice but they are all way out of his price range. I think only a small 2 bed villa in doubleview is to be found under $500k.

Have you been up to Mindarie? It is lovely, I recommend you go up for a meal some time down at the Keys.
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Lots of folk do FIFO and some of the so called good suburbs eg Gwelup, Wembley Woodlands,mount hawthorn etc are just not that appealing to migrants from Europe who like to be close to the ocean.

Scarborough looks very much like Bondi did when we arrived in 1990, we will definitely buy there at some stage, it is a great location and will get an upside over the next 10 yrs or so for sure. Was down there for Bikram and dinner last night - lovely.
Bikies ?? ha ha my friends Dad is a bikie --couldn't meet a nicer guy lol.


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I'm not a kiwi bro.


Ha ha I knew that would get your boxin' gloves on :) BTW I am not a pom thank you very much, I am Irish.

mango66
30 Jan 2013, 08:03 AM
Shit .....houses with built in incomes. Perth is going forwards in leaps and bounds.
:D
Edited by skamy, 30 Jan 2013, 06:34 PM.
Definition of a doom and gloomer from 1993
The last camp is made up of the doom-and-gloomers. Their slogan is "it's the end of the world as we know it". Right now they are convinced that debt is the evil responsible for all our economic woes and must be eliminated at all cost. Many doom-and-gloomers believe that unprecedented debt levels mean that we are on the precipice of a worse crisis than the Great Depression. The doom-and-gloomers hang on the latest series of negative economic data.
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skamy
30 Jan 2013, 06:34 PM


BTW I am not a pom thank you very much, I am Irish.
I am first born Australian. My Father is Irish and my Mother and Brother are English. My Father is from Ballingarry and Mother from St Albans
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