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The Science of Online Comment Trolls - The Worst Type of Troll; How many of the bulls meet this description?
Topic Started: 22 Jan 2013, 08:31 AM (2,592 Views)
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The Science of Comment Trolls

Chris Mooney - Mother Jones

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Comment trolls are the worst. Now, a new study reveals why: apparently the online peanut gallery can get you so riled up that your ability to reason goes out the window. Go figure.

Everybody who's written or blogged about climate change on a prominent website (or, even worse, spoken about it on YouTube) knows the drill. Shortly after you post, the menagerie of trolls arrives. They're predominantly climate deniers, and they start in immediately arguing over the content and attacking the science-sometimes by slinging insults and even occasional obscenities. To cite a recent example:
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What part of "we haven't warmed any in 16 years" don't you understand? Heh. "Cherry-picking" as defined by you alarmists: any time period selected containing data that refutes your hysterical hypothesis. Can be any length of time from 4 billion years to one hour. go away, little man!
It was reasonably obvious already that these folks were doing nothing good for the public's understanding of the science of climate change (to say nothing of their own comprehension). But now there's actual evidence to back this idea up.

In a recent study, a team of researchers from the George Mason University Center for Climate Change Communication and several other institutions employed a survey of 1,183 Americans to get at the negative consequences of vituperative online comments for the public understanding of science. Participants were asked to read a blog post containing a balanced discussion of the risks and benefits of nanotechnology (which is already all around us and supports a $91 billion US industry). The text of the post was the same for all participants, but the tone of the comments varied. Sometimes, they were "civil"-e.g., no name calling or flaming. But sometimes they were more like this: "If you don't see the benefits of using nanotechnology in these products, you're an idiot."

The researchers were trying to find out what effect exposure to such rudeness had on public perceptions of nanotech risks. They found that it wasn't a good one. Rather, it polarized the audience: Those who already thought nanorisks were low tended to become more sure of themselves when exposed to name-calling, while those who thought nanorisks are high were more likely to move in their own favored direction. In other words, it appeared that pushing people's emotional buttons, through derogatory comments, made them double down on their preexisting beliefs.

In the context of the psychological theory of motivated reasoning, this makes a great deal of sense. Based on pretty indisputable observations about how the brain works, the theory notes that people feel first, and think second. The emotions come faster than the "rational" thoughts-and also shape the retrieval of those thoughts from memory. Therefore, if reading insults activates one's emotions, the "thinking" process may be more likely to be defensive in nature, and focused on preserving one's identity and preexisting beliefs.

The study did not examine online climate change trolls directly-but there is good reason to think that the effects of their obnoxious behavior will, if anything, be worse. As the researchers note in the paper, compared with climate change, relatively few people know much about or have strong feelings about nanotechnology. When it comes to climate change, in contrast, "the controversy that you see in comments falls on more fertile ground, and resonates more with an established set of values that the reader may bring to the table," explains study coauthor Dietram Scheufele, a professor of science communication at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. If commenters have stronger emotions and more of a stake, it stands to reason that the polarizing effect of their insults may be even stronger-although, to be sure, this needs to be studied.

The upshot of this research? This is not your father's media environment any longer. In the golden oldie days of media, newspaper articles were consumed in the context of…other newspaper articles. But now, adds Scheufele, it's like "reading the news article in the middle of the town square, with people screaming in my ear what I should believe about it."

To be sure, we all retain the option of not reading the comments. Which, in light of the latest research, is looking smarter than ever.
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Sounds like the extremists. Especially the bear extremists.
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While it's true that those who win never quit, and those who quit never win, those who never win and never quit are idiots.

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Apex there are trolls on both sides. In a way it's good to watch them at work as long as they don't become too abusive.

I'm actually trying to think of any poster who hasn't been called a troll at some point of time. Maybe we are all trolls on occasions.

Any expressed market opinion is my own and is not to be taken as financial advice
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Hmm, explains why the bears have been getting to insultive and nasty lately. I thought it was because of a couple soft years and they stil couldnt afford property and it was making them frustrated. But the market *IS* soft at the moment. Maybe they think if they insult enough people, they can convert them from thinking the market is soft, to thinking the market will crash.

Property speculation is a type of gambling... But everyone knows that in gambling, the house always wins in the end.
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The article describes spanker to a tee!
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22 Jan 2013, 02:27 PM
The article describes spanker to a tee!
No it doesn't. Shadow doesn't post random abuse. As far as I have ever seen, he generally sticks to facts, data, and opinion / commentary based on those facts and data. IMO, Shadow's posts are always worth reading, whether you agree with his position and conclusions or not.

Your posts on the other hand are generally very "trollish"; ie abuse-ridden, and designed to attain an emotional reaction from other posters, and therefore are best left unread, as per the recommendation of the OP article..... :dry:
For Aussie property bears, "denial", is not just a long river in North Africa.....
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22 Jan 2013, 02:58 PM
No it doesn't. Shadow doesn't post random abuse. As far as I have ever seen, he generally sticks to facts, data, and opinion / commentary based on those facts and data. IMO, Shadow's posts are always worth reading, whether you agree with his position and conclusions or not.

Your posts on the other hand are generally very "trollish"; ie abuse-ridden, and designed to attain an emotional reaction from other posters, and therefore are best left unread, as per the recommendation of the OP article..... :dry:
Talking about spanker, not swallow :re:

Get with the game
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The troll , you mean like what I experienced yesterday after we had a new member sign up and ask us for some help and advice.

I tried to help and advice him where I could, but was only met with ridicule and others telling this fellow not to listen to me, yet they could provide any answer to this fellows questions, just came on , jibbered some shit, wasted our time, ridiculed me and contributed nothing AT ALL , typical bull right, take a look below and see the shit I ,we have to put up with.

No contirubution, just mindless dribble .see below.

http://australianpropertyforum.com/topic/9808526/2/#new

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Fullvalda
22 Jan 2013, 03:10 PM
just mindless dribble .see below.



Mindless drivle see above
Ignore posts by The Whole Truth · View Post · End Ignoring
The forum fuckwit goes RRRAAARRRGGHHhhh - But not a fuck was given..................by anyone.
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Catweasel say it has taught sandpit about emotion and reaction.

But most a not listen to a Catweasel.

But if it a read in published "science", mouse ears suddenly prick up.

And then return to sandpit fracas.

But that OK. If not the happen, nothing to a observe.
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