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Linux; I don't want to lick windows anymore.
Topic Started: 10 Jan 2013, 01:05 PM (4,873 Views)
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I'm working on loading Ubuntu the most popular Linux derived system.

Got some choices, get the latest 12.10 in 32 or 64 bit?

Do go fat32 or NTFS?

I'll start off really simple. I'll just do 32 bit and Fat32.

It might be pointless to allocate too much to such simple file system, so I'll take my virgin primary partition "G" and shrink it to something like under 140 GB and leave the rest unallocated.

Ok download Ubuntu 12.10 32 bit file to hard disk. Click on this and burn an optical boot DVD. Then change order to DVD first and boot up on DVD.

Hopefully I can say goodbye be this.

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WTF!!!

Get a decent computer and win 7 FFS
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What's a decent computer in the LM catalogue?
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32 Bit is fine unless you want to utilize more that 4 GB of ram.

Whats with the Windows Filesystems, linux would use a ext4 filesystem, not NTFS or FAT32 ...

See the Perfect Desktop http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-12.10-quantal-quetzal

This will step you thru an install ... :oo:

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Black Panther
10 Jan 2013, 02:04 PM
32 Bit is fine unless you want to utilize more that 4 GB of ram.

Whats with the Windows Filesystems, linux would use a ext4 filesystem, not NTFS or FAT32 ...

See the Perfect Desktop http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-12.10-quantal-quetzal

This will step you thru an install ... :oo:

I'm planning to dual boot, the guide doesn't help on that one?

I'm already using W7 64 bit.

I Said I'll start with something simple. A problem with Ubuntu is it seems to only give control over a Fat32 file system.
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10 Jan 2013, 02:24 PM
I'm planning to dual boot, the guide doesn't help on that one?

I'm already using W7 64 bit.

I Said I'll start with something simple. A problem with Ubuntu is it seems to only give control over a Fat32 file system.
You can read and write ntfs with your linux OS,

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009

Fat32 is ancient.

I used to use Ubuntu, changed to Centos(Redhat free version), because it's industry standard, although probably not really what you want if you're a noob.

I've always wanted to try Mint Linux, it's based on Ubuntu but it has a lot of the extra pretty stuff Ubuntu doesn't straight out of the box, like Flash I think.

http://linuxmint.com/

If you want a new computer, maybe you could make your own, get the parts from msy.com.au which is notoriously the cheapest place to get bits, although visiting the shop is usually a sickening geek fest and the support sucks but that's why it's cheap, and if you need help just ask on whirlpool. All you really have to do is follow the motherboard manual and make sure you've got enough power in your power supply and a big enough case for your bits. Heaps more satisfying that buying a premade computer imo. Just need some small screwdrivers and maybe a pair of pliars.

i5 and i7 are probably the most respected CPUs these days.

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use a live cd if you want to experiment with linux, that way you can do it with zero commitment if you don't like it.
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themoops
10 Jan 2013, 02:55 PM
You can read and write ntfs with your linux OS,

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009

Fat32 is ancient.

I used to use Ubuntu, changed to Centos(Redhat free version), because it's industry standard, although probably not really what you want if you're a noob.

I've always wanted to try Mint Linux, it's based on Ubuntu but it has a lot of the extra pretty stuff Ubuntu doesn't straight out of the box, like Flash I think.

http://linuxmint.com/

If you want a new computer, maybe you could make your own, get the parts from msy.com.au which is notoriously the cheapest place to get bits, although visiting the shop is usually a sickening geek fest and the support sucks but that's why it's cheap, and if you need help just ask on whirlpool. All you really have to do is follow the motherboard manual and make sure you've got enough power in your power supply and a big enough case for your bits. Heaps more satisfying that buying a premade computer imo. Just need some small screwdrivers and maybe a pair of pliars.

i5 and i7 are probably the most respected CPUs these days.
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You can read and write ntfs with your linux OS


I don't have much idea about the worthyness of these file systems.

There are voices screaming for/against FAT32 for some reason.

There are voices screaming for/against ntfs for some reason.

There are voices screaming for/against ext 4 for some reason.

They don't state reasons.

One reason is FAT32 is claimed to be ideal for both systems.

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Fat32 is ancient.


Yes......And?

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If you want a new computer, maybe you could make your own, get the parts from msy.com.au which is notoriously the cheapest place to get bits, although visiting the shop is usually a sickening geek fest and the support sucks but that's why it's cheap, and if you need help just ask on whirlpool. All you really have to do is follow the motherboard manual and make sure you've got enough power in your power supply and a big enough case for your bits. Heaps more satisfying that buying a premade computer imo. Just need some small screwdrivers and maybe a pair of pliars.


I'm simply answering Frank liar...................he says new computer...................not that he knows what I got....................................not that he makes a concrete suggestion.

The board is full of idiots.................I was sounding out one Pete Frazer yesterday.........................He figured because the stench between his ears says "Halal = Food", that's also good enough for the Universe.

Edited by Count du Monet, 10 Jan 2013, 03:33 PM.
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Count du Monet
10 Jan 2013, 02:24 PM
I'm planning to dual boot, the guide doesn't help on that one?

I'm already using W7 64 bit.

I Said I'll start with something simple. A problem with Ubuntu is it seems to only give control over a Fat32 file system.
Fat32 can be read and written to as a share with linux, NTFS can be read, but not written to.

Thats been my experience.

BTW openSuSE is a good distro to try also.
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10 Jan 2013, 03:34 PM
Fat32 can be read and written to as a share with linux, NTFS can be read, but not written to.

Thats been my experience.

BTW openSuSE is a good distro to try also.
The thing is I don't know exactly what is going to be useful for me Linux.

The reason for FAT32 is both O/S can use it without any difficulty.

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If you wish to access your Ubuntu files from Windows, there are two ways to go. One of those is using a file system that Windows understands properly on your Ubuntu install, such as fat32 or NTFS. Ubuntu does have read/write support for NTFS, but this is not so well proven as fat32 support and might be more prone to errors, so I don't think it's a good choice. As for fat32, I would not recommend this either, as fat32 is an old, sluggish file system in comparison with any other and there are many limitations (slower performance, plus restrictions on maximum file size, total number of files, maximum file system size, etc.).


Would I want something more than this?

Would I want Ubuntu 12.10 64bit ext4 on how many gigs of partition?

Would I want that? Note, the question what will be good for me, not what some other thinks is good and holy.
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