You seem unable to see the difference between technology that can be tested such as a computer and cosmology
How old are you? Evidently you know nothing about scientific history and the way our modern ideas have developed via controversy
Obviously if you have an important patron your version of reality gets the most airtime
Cosmology is able to be tested you idiot.
Bit rich for someone who cant discern the difference between science and fashion. Or the difference between the importance of a theory supported by evidence as opposed to the varying unsupported opinions of individuals.
Hubble said in 1941 that he did not believe in an expanding universe
I think you are referring to his 1943 paper in Science entitled "The Problem of the Expanding Universe." In it he seems to me to state that he is of the opinion that the universe is expanding:
Quote:
"Modern cosmological theory attempts to describe the types of universes that are compatible with the two principles, general relativity and the cosmological principle. Profound analysis of the problem leads to the following conclusions. Such universes are unstable. They might be momentarily in equilibrium, but the slightest internal disturbance would destroy the balance, and disturbances must occur. Therefore, these possible worlds are not stationary. They are, in general, either contracting or expanding, although theory in its present form does not indicate either the direction of change or the rate of change. At this point, the theorist turned to the reports of the observers. The empirical law of red shifts was accepted as visible evidence that the universe is expanding in a particular manner and at a known rate. This arose the conception of homogeneous expanding universe of general relativity."
Fred Hoyle is the one who thought this was nonsense, coining the term "Big Bang" to make it seem ridiculous.
The Big Bang theory is just one of a number of models that fit the observations to date. As more observations come in, no doubt it will get modified until there comes a point where it becomes simpler to adopt a different model.
There is also one of the more elegent statements of how science works in Hubble's paper:
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"Mathematicians deal with possible worlds, with an infinite number of logically consistent systems. Observers explore the one particular world we inhabit. Between the two stands the theorist He studies possible worlds but only those which are compatible with the information furnished by observers. In other words, theory attempts to segregate the minimum number of possible worlds which must include the actual world we inhabit. Then the observer, with new factual information, attempts to reduce the list still further. And so it goes, observation and theory advancing together toward the common goal of science, knowledge of the structure and behavior of the physical universe."
Note that Hubble seems to have made no reference to how the universe might have begun. He was just saying it seemed to be expanding.
Thanks for prompting me to chase this paper down. It's here (in the form published in 1942 in "American Scientist")
Bit rich for someone who cant discern the difference between science and fashion. Or the difference between the importance of a theory supported by evidence as opposed to the varying unsupported opinions of individuals.
The nature of Cosmology is that it cannot be properly tested.
You implied/said science was decided by agreement and ability to publish
Why not get a mirror and have a look at yourself and stop fucking around?
Show me where I implied /said science was decided by the ability to publish? I said science was decided by the literature. What are your own qualifications? You seem to have a lot of opinions. Have you been published?
I think you are referring to his 1943 paper in Science entitled "The Problem of the Expanding Universe." In it he seems to me to state that he is of the opinion that the universe is expanding:
Fred Hoyle is the one who thought this was nonsense, coining the term "Big Bang" to make it seem ridiculous.
The Big Bang theory is just one of a number of models that fit the observations to date. As more observations come in, no doubt it will get modified until there comes a point where it becomes simpler to adopt a different model.
There is also one of the more elegent statements of how science works in Hubble's paper:
Note that Hubble seems to have made no reference to how the universe might have begun. He was just saying it seemed to be expanding.
Thanks for prompting me to chase this paper down. It's here (in the form published in 1942 in "American Scientist")
the concluding lines are quite ambiguous since in 1940 he was talking about red shifts created by the slowing of atomic forces or some such thing, a stable universe with no expansion and yet similar sorts of ambiguity at to what he is saying.
Show me where I implied /said science was decided by the ability to publish? I said science was decided by the literature. What are your own qualifications? You seem to have a lot of opinions. Have you been published?
necessarily you cannot be in the literature until you find a publisher, where until you get into an important organ you might as well be in outer darkness on your own.
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