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Andrew Judd
12 Dec 2012, 12:51 AM
You seem to imagine that science is decided by whoever gets the most time on Television

As I already mentioned:

1. The man attributed to discovering an expanding universe said he did not believe it was expanding

2. The man who coined the term big bang thought it was a silly idea.

3. The original idea was put forwards by a catholic scientist priest.

4. The idea is irrational rather than scientific. It is more like Genesis than what we think of as being scientific
The science is decided by the literature champ....
there is no debate about this
Peer review ignores your point of view. You wanna know why?
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champ
12 Dec 2012, 12:44 AM
Oh I'm a scientist. And an athiest. But you're right that I'm in the wrong place. :)
I am also a scientist and cannot believe the faith some folk put in us eh. :o

I am not an atheist and not religious and not agnostic and not a Buddhist either tho I kinda like all that stuff :)

Definition of a doom and gloomer from 1993
The last camp is made up of the doom-and-gloomers. Their slogan is "it's the end of the world as we know it". Right now they are convinced that debt is the evil responsible for all our economic woes and must be eliminated at all cost. Many doom-and-gloomers believe that unprecedented debt levels mean that we are on the precipice of a worse crisis than the Great Depression. The doom-and-gloomers hang on the latest series of negative economic data.
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Andrew Judd
12 Dec 2012, 12:51 AM
You seem to imagine that science is decided by whoever gets the most time on Television

As I already mentioned:

1. The man attributed to discovering an expanding universe said he did not believe it was expanding

2. The man who coined the term big bang thought it was a silly idea.

3. The original idea was put forwards by a catholic scientist priest.

4. The idea is irrational rather than scientific. It is more like Genesis than what we think of as being scientific
Please quote me where I stated any such thing. Quit straw manning me.

Not a single thing you posted matters at all. Newton didn't believe in an expanding universe either, so what? Its the evidence that matters, not someones baseless opinion.

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Strindberg
12 Dec 2012, 12:56 AM
That's not really silly if time began with the big bang. There could be nothing before it, in time, by definition. But Hawkins backed off claiming it was a singularity.

I like Victor Stenger's idea that the reason there is "something" rather than "nothing" is that the state of "nothing" can be shown to be unstable.
It seems a very human idea to me that you could have something but no time and then the clock starts ticking

It also sounds very human that it was not that long ago and we still get to witness 'the sound of the bang'
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skamy
12 Dec 2012, 12:57 AM
I am also a scientist and cannot believe the faith some folk put in us eh. :o

I am not an atheist and not religious and not agnostic and not a Buddhist either tho I kinda like all that stuff :)
Good on you
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champ
12 Dec 2012, 12:57 AM
The science is decided by the literature champ....
fashion is decided by whoever gets the highest circulation


jester77
12 Dec 2012, 12:59 AM
Please quote me where I stated any such thing. Quit straw manning me.

Not a single thing you posted matters at all. Newton didn't believe in an expanding universe either, so what? Its the evidence that matters, not someones baseless opinion.
You evidently do not understand much about science as it is practised or people

If the catholic church gets all the funding it can decide the world is whatever it wants people to believe and can ensure that anybody who disagrees suffers. Only enormous bravery enabled science to prevail only a few hundred years ago

Big bang gets massive funding, anybody who says otherwise does not.

Are you really so naive?

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Andrew Judd
12 Dec 2012, 01:04 AM
fashion is decided by whoever gets the highest circulation



You evidently do not understand much about science as it is practised or people

If the catholic church gets all the funding it can decide the world is whatever it wants people to believe and can ensure that anybody who disagrees suffers

Big bang gets massive funding, anybody who says otherwise does not.

Are you really so naive?
Jesus...

Is it a full moon tonight???
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jester77
12 Dec 2012, 01:11 AM
Jesus...

Is it a full moon tonight???
You seem unable to see the difference between technology that can be tested such as a computer and cosmology

How old are you? Evidently you know nothing about scientific history and the way our modern ideas have developed via controversy

Obviously if you have an important patron your version of reality gets the most airtime
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Andrew Judd
12 Dec 2012, 01:04 AM
fashion is decided by whoever gets the highest circulation



You evidently do not understand much about science as it is practised or people

If the catholic church gets all the funding it can decide the world is whatever it wants people to believe and can ensure that anybody who disagrees suffers. Only enormous bravery enabled science to prevail only a few hundred years ago

Big bang gets massive funding, anybody who says otherwise does not.

Are you really so naive?
So science is fashion now?
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champ
12 Dec 2012, 01:12 AM
So science is fashion now?
You implied/said science was decided by agreement and ability to publish

Why not get a mirror and have a look at yourself and stop fucking around?
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