So you don't understand the difference between "disbelief" and "lack of belief"?
Let me make it very simple for you.
The proposition on the table is that there is such a thing as a blue apple.
I say: "There is no such thing as a blue apple" --atheism I say: "I have no knowledge of the existence of blue apples." --agnosticism I say: "As far as I know there are no blue apples." --agnosticism I say: "It s not impossible that there could be blue apples, but I have no evidence of the existence of of blue apples." --agnosticim
No. Atheism is an unambiguous belief that there is/are no god(s).
"If you do not hold a belief in a god..." is a phrase that can be legitimately construed in numerous ways, only one of which amounts to atheism, e.g.:
a) The person does not believe that any god exists b) The person does not believe that a specific god exists, but may instead believe in other god(s) c) The person does not hold a specific belief that god (or gods) exist as described by adherents of a particular religion, but is prepared to entertain the idea that god(s) could exist
So you don't understand the difference between "disbelief" and "lack of belief"?
there is nothing about atheism that requires you to hold a belief that a god does not exist.
Athiesm is a lack of belief in a god. You may have a variety of atheists who hold different views as to the possibility of a god, the key thing that defines them as atheist is a lack of belief.
So you don't understand the difference between "disbelief" and "lack of belief"?
Let me make it very simple for you.
The proposition on the table is that there is such a thing as a blue apple.
I say: "There is no such thing as a blue apple" --atheism I say: "I have no knowledge of the existence of blue apples." --agnosticism I say: "As far as I know there are no blue apples." --agnosticism I say: "It s not impossible that there could be blue apples, but I have no evidence of the existence of of blue apples." --agnosticim
They are two different words for a reason.
Do you understand the difference between a wanker and a w.a.n.k.e.r?
So you don't understand the difference between "disbelief" and "lack of belief"?
Let me make it very simple for you.
The proposition on the table is that there is such a thing as a blue apple.
I say: "There is no such thing as a blue apple" --atheism I say: "I have no knowledge of the existence of blue apples." --agnosticism I say: "As far as I know there are no blue apples." --agnosticism I say: "It s not impossible that there could be blue apples, but I have no evidence of the existence of of blue apples." --agnosticim
Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown and (so far as can be judged) unknowable
As far as I'm aware the big bang theory says nothing about the universe prior to the expansion event. How could it?
"How could it"???
One would think it would be rather useful, in the elucidation and validation of the Big Bang process and timeline, to describe the starting conditions which led to / enabled the Bang.
Atheism by its very definition is the belief that no god exists. No ifs. No buts. No god.
The moment you allow the possibility that there might be a god, you are agnostic.
Utter tripe, as you would say.
nipa hut
12 Dec 2012, 12:17 AM
"How could it"???
One would think it would be rather useful, in the elucidation and validation of the Big Bang process and timeline, to describe the starting conditions which led to / enabled the Bang.
Or is all that 'deus ex machina"?
I didn't say anything about the starting conditions, I said before the big bang.
Of course it would be useful, do you have a theory? What do you want them to do, just make something up? that's what theists are for.
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