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Auckland in grip of housing crisis

JENNY KEOWN
Last updated 12:38 21/10/2012

When you see feverish media headlines featuring the word "crisis" the more cynical among us tend to think 'yeah, right'. But in the case of the so- called Auckland housing crisis, there's more behind it than a desire by journalists to grab your attention whatever way they can.

This is not just any crisis. This one is a like a highly infectious disease that has already begun to choke the life out of that most hallowed of many Kiwi dreams - home ownership.

There are naysayers such as Prime Minister John Key and Auckland Mayor Len Brown who campaigned on the slogan of Auckland being the world's most livable city, But those who agree there is a serious housing problem include economists, other Auckland councillors, the Productivity Commission, and academics.

Why a crisis? Because the staggering housing shortage isn't keeping pace with Auckland's rapidly growing population, with natural growth fuelled by new migrants and expatriates returning home. The latest population forecasts from Statistics New Zealand show Auckland's population of just under 1.5 million is expected to rise by half a million in the next 20 years. By 2031, the Auckland region is likely to be home to 38 per cent of New Zealand's population.

By best estimates the city is about 10,000 houses shy of what it needs and it's only likely to worsen. According to the Salvation Army, under current trends over the next 20 years Auckland will be short of 90,000 houses - more houses than were destroyed in the Christchurch earthquake.

High demand plus sluggish response from property developers and builders due to problems getting funding, equals inflated house prices. While it's nothing new for Auckland house prices to be well above the national average, more concerning is how high they have risen above the growth in people's incomes.

The median house price was $505,500 in August this year, up from $453,000 a year ago - a rise of 11.6 per cent, according to the Roost home loan affordability index. In contrast, the median weekly take home pay for a typical buyer only rose 2.7 per cent over the same period, from $820.43 to $842.39.

It means your average house is becoming unaffordable for many Auckland families, even when both adults work.

But owning a home is ingrained in the Kiwi psyche; it's the thing you do to get financial security. You only to have watched even one episode of the reality home renovation show The Block to see the lengths desperate young couples are willing to go to get a leg up into home ownership.

Some argue the crisis is just in a couple of Auckland's more well-to- do suburbs - the likes of those within the Auckland Grammar zone and poncy parts of Ponsonby.

Don't Generation Y and X just need to reset their lifestyle expectations and buy an ex-state house further out of the city, in the traditionally working class western suburb of Henderson or something? Or start off with a tiny apartment in the city?

As with most problems, the answer is just not that simple.

A central Auckland mortgage broker, who didn't wish to be named, says there are still first- home buyers who refuse to hunt for properties out of their preferred location in the central city suburbs. But most buyers that have reached "the pain threshold" and willing to look in more bog- standard suburbs are still struggling to find something affordable that isn't in need of a major overhaul.
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Supply and demand dictates prices in any market. With increased demand and a shortage of listings, Auckland house prices have risen overall and dramatically so in some suburbs.

In the traditionally working class western suburb of Henderson, the average asking house prices rose from $378,737 in July 2008 to 424,984 in July this year - a rise of 12 per cent, according to Trade Me. In the far eastern suburb of Howick, prices shot up 25 per cent over the same period, from $576,429 to $725,714. In Grey Lynn, prices rose 19 per cent from $532,417 to $634,059.

It is worth bearing in mind that this data is only based on listings that supplied an asking price.

L J Hooker agent Murray Biddick has been in the business for 24 years and has never seen a situation like the current one.

Most properties where he works in the eastern suburb of Howick were being sold at auction within three weeks for "very good prices", he said.

Another agent working in the western suburb of Henderson says there has been a noticeable spill over in price increases from the central suburbs to the west in recent months.

Most homes, including entry- level properties, were being auctioned and first-home buyers on tight finance were finding this daunting.

"There is a preparedness from buyers to pay the extra and immigrants, Chinese in particular, have a budget that seems to be exceeding born and bred Westies," he says.

South Auckland has a shortage of decent brick and tile homes in the entry-level $350,000 to $400,000 range, says Manurewa Ray White manager Sue Douglas.

Banks' liberal lending critieria and low interest rates are undoubtedly fuelling demand. One broker says he's seeing more people on good incomes, with good savings and little to no external debt.

However, the widening gap between the haves and the have- nots in terms of affording a house, is becoming more apparent, he says.

"You've got to have a combined or single annual income of at least $100,000 with no external debt to have a chance of buying in this market."

The home ownership rate fell to just under 64 per cent in 2006, and is projected to be as low as 58.3 per cent in 2016, according to the Centre for Housing Research.

The decline was greatest in the 20-40 year age group.

University of Auckland professor Jenny Dixon says younger householders are likely to be raising children and will make up the productive population over the next 40 years.

"The Auckland housing market is increasingly failing to meet the needs of its residents. This will hold serious implications for population and economic growth in the region and making Auckland a liveable, global competitive city," she says.

According to the Auckland Council, 28 per cent of Auckland households now pay more than 30 per cent of gross household income on housing, a proportion widely recognised as unaffordable.

The pain has hit the rental market as well.

Between 2002 and 2012, rents in Auckland were 34 per cent higher than the rest of the country, but kept pace with wage and salary growth, according to a Salvation Army report published in August.

However, from early this year Auckland rents starting rising faster than incomes, in response to the slow-down in new building and tightening housing markets in more affluent suburbs, the report said.

Productivity Commission chairman Murray Sherwin was one of the first to raise the red flag about Auckland's crisis in his recent report on housing affordability. Sherwin's key finding was that high population growth had fuelled the pressure on housing affordability in the region, the pool of renters had grown, and that the steep rise in real house prices over the 2000s had significantly reduced the likelihood of some households - particularly those in the $50,000 to $70,000 income range - from buying a property.

It pointed the blame largely at the Auckland Council's slow house consenting processes, high infrastructure charges and its "smart- growth model" of encouraging intensification in the city.

This had raised the price of land so much new homes tend to be at the higher-priced end rather than at the bottom end catering for first home buyers.

"The housing backlog is acknowledged by the council and government - so what are you going to do about it folks?" Sherwin asked.

Auckland Council's response came via deputy mayor Penny Hulse, who said there were plans to free up land on city limits. The Auckland Plan allows for up to 160,000 new houses to be built over the next 30 years outside the current urban limit, a city bigger than Hamilton, Dunedin, Palmerston North and Hastings combined.

"How can anyone think that is not large enough?" Hulse asked. Besides, Aucklanders don't want a sprawling city, she proclaimed. The council is also investigating ways to develop 280,000 new dwellings within existing boundaries.

Typically when you have high demand, property developers get busy and build new homes to sell to people. So why isn't that happening now?

The collapse of the finance companies, that provided substantial property development funding, didn't help. Developers had find it tough going getting the banks to fill the gap.

Long-time property developer John Sax says there is no magic bullet to fix the housing affordability issue in Auckland.

The material cost of housing is "disproportionately high by international standards and the country needs to increase competition and contestability of products," he says.

Residential property speculation, where builders build it and hope people will come to where they've built, is also unhelpful in terms of meeting supply and pricing, he says.

Sax's development company Southpark is planning an affordable housing development in Auckland in partnership with the council.

While he won't reveal its location,the development will provide multi-bedroom housing at a cost of between $350,000 and $550,000.

That's arguably an affordable price while still delivering the developer a healthy profit that allows him to stay in business.

Fellow property developer Mark Fraser, of the Hobsonville Land Company, says Kiwis mistake big for quality when it comes to houses.

Most new developments in Auckland were large and expensive homes. In one example, Stonefields in Mount Wellington, houses are selling for between $700,000 to $900,000.

Fraser argues Hobsonville, on the city's northwest fringe, is one of the few affordable areas but they're still out of the reach of many first-home buyers.

His company's range includes smaller 90sqm to 100sqm two- bedroom houses for around $400,000 to four-bedroom homes of around 200sqm to 220sqm for $800,000.

Fraser rejects those who blame a lack of land supply for pushing up development prices.

"It's not the cost of the raw land, but the cost of developing the land - including putting in roads and power, then the cost of the building on top of that."

According to Mayor Len Brown there is no crisis. He will admit to a housing shortage though.

Some of the analysis of Auckland's housing challenges were simplistic and didn't reflect on the way the city had responded to the ebb and flow of economic cycles in the past, he says.

The city needs to build between 8000 to 10,000 houses, units and apartments a year, but they needed to be quality, within reach of middle and modest income earners and not sprawling across the countryside, he said.

"When Auckland is humming, that is how many we build. It is going to take a while to wind up to that pace," says Brown.

There is currently provision for developing about 18,500 properties on greenfield land that could be built on today, which just goes to show, he claims, that the current urban limits were not the root cause of the unmet demand for housing. Instead he blames the difficult economic environment that led to a downturn in building activity which is yet to crank up again.

The council is drawing up a Unitary Plan that will allow it to develop partnerships with government, non-government organisations and the private sector on existing brownfield land.

It is also looking at speeding up the upfront assessment processes for building developments, and density bonuses as incentives for affordable housing developments.

But when it comes to whether council should take a leading role in actually building affordable homes itself, Brown says legacy councils had in fact sold the vast majority of council stock in Auckland. "As we look for savings to keep rates increases low for Auckland families, the council simply does not have enough money to build new council housing."

The answers will need to come from the private sector where supply and demand will dictate price.

Read more: http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/7844917/Auckland-in-grip-of-housing-crisis
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Catweasel say crikey. Replace a Auckland with a Melbourne, Sydney or a Perth and it almost get a same narrative as a Australia.

But raise the interesting point.

Media, expert, and mou-tribes constantly a refer to a U.S., the Ireland, etc. It a rarely see the comparison with a NZ.

Why that the be?

It a think that it a partly relate to a psychological. Whether mouse like it or the not, many the similarity between a cultural, political, economical, mental, etc.

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Catweasel
22 Oct 2012, 12:16 PM
Catweasel say crikey. Replace a Auckland with a Melbourne, Sydney or a Perth and it almost get a same narrative as a Australia.

What about the oversupply we keep hearing about...?
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22 Oct 2012, 12:46 PM
What about the oversupply we keep hearing about...?
Catweasel say if mouse read article, it will appear that a Auckland have the big shortage, for much a same the reason as a Australia.

It can the be a amazing city and a Catweasel's have the property sit on a Lake the Pupuke.

Anyway, why the mute from media, expert and a mouse about a Auckland?

Surely this a support the narrative if it can draw common element.

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22 Oct 2012, 01:06 PM
Catweasel say if mouse read article, it will appear that a Auckland have the big shortage, for much a same the reason as a Australia.

It can the be a amazing city and a Catweasel's have the property sit on a Lake the Pupuke.

Anyway, why the mute from media, expert and a mouse about a Auckland?

Surely this a support the narrative if it can draw common element.
I was just being a smart-ass, but thanks anyway! :D
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Darling Mrs. Catweasel point it to the interesting on a NZ. Crikey, watch a mouse the go in a comments. Much the harder to a observe in a psychological. No mouzealots, no rabid mice, no Catweasel.

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House asking prices hit new high

CATHERINE HARRIS
Last updated 11:21 02/11/2012

Asking prices for properties reached a new high in October, as a surge of new sellers hit the market.

A monthly report by industry website Realestate.co.nz says vendors displayed greater confidence last month, asking on average for a record price of $445,529 nationally.

Asking prices, which are usually higher than the final sale price, were up 4 per cent on the previous month and 5 per cent on a year ago.

Realestate.co.nz spokesman Paul Mackenzie said the market was seeing more activity and confidence that it had for several years.

Perhaps more significantly, there was a marked lift in listings, by 12 per cent nationally on the previous year.

In housing-short areas like Auckland and Canterbury, they were up 56 per cent and 8 per cent respectively and even in sluggish Wellington listings rose 18 per cent.

Mackenzie said the flush of listings indicated the market was rebalancing in Wellington and several provincial areas.

Inventory – the number of weeks taken to clear the backlog of properties on the market - remained stable nationally at 33 weeks but dropped markedly in several centres.

"The next data for November will be interesting to review as to the final flush of new listings coming on the market in spring," Mackenzie said. "November is traditionally one of the biggest listing months of the year."

Regionally, 12 of the survey's 19 regions were considered sellers' markets.

Strong demand in the main centres pushed Auckland's asking price up to a new high of $611,864, up 9 per cent on a year ago, and Canterbury's up by 13 per cent to $414,070.

Auckland's inventory dropped 35 per cent on a year ago and earthquake-hit Canterbury was down 10 per cent.

After months of little activity, Wellington's asking price rose 5 per cent on October last year to $450,105, as was Waikato's price to $367,533.

Inventory in both centres was down sizably, by 15 per cent and 24 per cent respectively.

Read more: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/7898643/House-asking-prices-hit-new-high
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If Graeme Wheeler is as worried as the FSR suggests, he should push much harder on Loan to Value Ratio limits

November 7, 2012 - 02:34pm, Bernard Hickey

Graeme Wheeler told us for the first time today what he thought of using Loan to Value Ratios (LVRs) to cool down a housing market without having to hike the Official Cash Rate.

He's not that keen on using such 'unconventional' tools, despite other very conventional banks such as the Bank of Israel, the Hong Kong Monetary Authority, the Monetary Authority of Singapore and Canada's Banking Regulator all choosing to use or extend the use of LVR limits this year to control bubbly housing markets.

Wheeler told us that even if he had these LVR limits he wouldn't use them at the moment. Watch the video above for the section of his first press conference where I ask him about LVRs.

In one comment he effectively undercut the warnings from the Reserve Bank's own Financial Stability Report aimed at cooling down increasingly loose housing lending by banks that is helping to fuel house price growth of 5-10% in Christchurch and Auckland.

The warnings were substantial and repeated. In the overview the phrase 'excessive credit growth' is used twice in two paragraphs.

Here's a sample: "Excessive credit growth could worsen housing market imbalances given that house prices appear over-valued on a number of measures."

And this: "The Reserve Bank is also developing a broader macro-prudential policy toolkit to help achieve this objective. At present, credit growth is still reasonably subdued, but the Reserve Bank remains alert to developments that might warrant macro-prudential intervention."

Wheeler was referring to a memorandum of understanding the Reserve Bank is formulating with the government over which so-called macro-prudential tools it should use and how.

But in the next sentence he suggested he wasn't that keen to use them, referring to how they tended to advantage first home buyers at the expense of existing property owners and residential property investors.

Wheeler is sticking with the tone he set in his first speech, which is that his job under the Reserve Bank Act is to target inflation of around 2% with the Official Cash Rate and that any macro-prudential tools are useful mostly to keep the banking system safe, rather than to help boost the power of interest rate policy. Wheeler also reiterated he is reluctant to intervene in the currency and use Quantitative Easing.

More Brash than Bollard

In short, Wheeler showed himself to be more orthodox in his thinking than the previous governor and more committed to pure inflation targeting -- more Brash than Bollard. He is clearly uncomfortable with the idea of using such 'unorthodox' tools as LVR limits.

That is a pity because all sorts of economic data is signalling the Reserve Bank needs to act to bolster the power of monetary policy and avoid another damaging asset bubble.

Wheeler himself pointed to figures in the report showing house prices still around 4.5 times median incomes, well above the 3 times seen in the 1990s and just below the highs of over 5 seen at the peak of the boom in 2008.

The report pointed to a significant easing of lending standards in home lending in recent months.

"Discussions with banks suggest that high loan to value ratio loans are now beginning to form a significantly larger share of new mortgage lending than has been the case for most of the period since the financial crisis," it said.

By warning about the risks and pointing to the evidence, the Reserve Bank is then undercutting its own message by saying it's reluctant to do anything about the risks.

And they are large risks.

House prices are surging in Auckland to record highs with volumes reported by Barfoot & Thompson up almost 50% in October from a year ago. This is sucking in capital, keeping the New Zealand dollar high and preventing the rebalancing of the economy. It risks repeating the housing and consumption boom that unbalanced the economy from 2002 to 2008.

It presents the risk that the Reserve Bank may have to hold back from cutting the Official Cash Rate to avoid further pumping up the Auckland housing market, or that the Reserve Bank is forced to hike the OCR to slow the market down. Either would damage the real economy.

LVR limits allow the bank to slow (or speed up) the housing market by using the tool rather than the OCR.

This is a tool used earlier this week by the Bank of Israel to cut its official rate without worrying it would further heat up an already hot housing market. Israel is limiting first home buyers to an LVR of 75%, existing home buyers to 70% and property investors to 50%. Canada has reduced its maximum loan to value ratio to 80% from 85%.

The new Governor is letting his entrenched orthodoxy blind him to a pragmatic solution.

His determination to say 'Look Ma, no hands!' could run the New Zealand economy off the road.

Read more: http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/61918/opinion-if-graeme-wheeler-worried-fsr-suggests-he-should-push-much-harder-loan-value-r
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Unemployment shock and housing boom figures should convince NZ government to put its hands back on the steering wheel

November 9, 2012 - 04:06pm, Bernard Hickey

New Zealand house prices, as measured by the REINZ's stratified index that takes out some of the 'noise' from more sales of expensive houses, rose 3.5% in the last 3 months and 6.9% in the last year.

If only the Reserve Bank could slow down the housing market with macro-prudential tools instead of the Official Cash Rate.

The Reserve Bank is investigating using such tools, including Loan to Value Ratio limits and things such as 'counter cyclical capital' buffers, which would require banks to hold more capital at times of strong economic growth.

But this work is still only investigatory and the Reserve Bank has yet to agree a Memorandum of Understanding with the Government on how and when it would use such tools. New Governor Graeme Wheeler even said he wouldn't use the tools even if he had them....yet. See more here in this piece with a video of Wheeler's views. Previous Governor Alan Bollard looked at using them in 2006 and decided against it. He reiterated last month he was opposed to using them.

It beggars belief. So when would the Reserve Bank and the new Governor use them? Is a 14.4% rise in house prices in the country's biggest real estate market in one year (past tense) not enough? House prices rose 3.5% nationally and 7.7% in Auckland in the last 3 months. That's twice as fast as the growth being seen in Israel. Also, inflation is running below the Reserve Bank's own target band of 1-3% and below the 2% average that he has agreed to focus on in his new Policy Targets Agreement. I

Why won't he act? Surely he's not asleep at the wheel(er)?

....And back on Planet Key

In the meantime John Key has pledged to stay the course with the government's 'hands off' strategy for the currency and the Reserve Bank Act, and will stick to the plan to get the budget back into surplus by 2014/2015. This implies a fiscal policy tightening of around 4% of GDP over the next three years.

If the government is going to tighten by 4%, which part of the economy is going to expand by the same amount or more to avoid going into recession? It was supposed to be the private sector and, in particular, the export sector. That now looks very unlikely with a currency stubbornly over 81 USc and rising towards 80 Australian cents. It also looks unlikely with Europe in or near recession, China slowing from a 10% plus growth rates to closer to 7% and Australia slowing to under 3% growth.

So what to do?

If the government and Reserve Bank do acknowledge the facts have changed, then what should they do?

Here's a few ideas in no particular order:

Introduce loan to value ratio limits similar to the Israeli ones - They are conventional monetary policy tools now and would avoid a whole new generation of borrowers getting up to their eyeballs in debt just before interest rates start rising again. They will also reduce the financial vulnerability of any banks were house prices to fall sharply because more equity means less chance of mortgagee sales.

Introduce counter-cyclical capital buffers - This would slow down bank lending growth in a much simpler way than an increase in the Official Cash Rate and doesn't punish existing borrowers for the actions of those borrowing at the fringes. It would mean banks have to top up their equity, probably by not sending dividends back to their Australian parents. That would help reduce the current account deficit in a similar way to what happened in 2009 when banks agreed to pay higher tax rates. It would allow the Reserve Bank to cut the OCR and give relief to business borrowers, or at least offset any increase in interest rates imposed by bank shareholders to protect their profits given the higher capital requirements.

Increase the risk weightings and capital requirements for mortgage lending - This would force banks to slow mortgage lending and put aside more of their own capital to back these loans. It could be argued this would reduce the 'over-weighting' of New Zealand bank assets to one type of asset. Any investment manager will tell you that diversification reduces risks. Gareth Morgan has suggested such a move in his 5 point plan.

Introduce a land tax or capital tax or capital gains tax - This imposes a holding cost on land-banking property developers and transfers some of the easy wealth gains of the recent gains to non-property owners. It also evens up the playing field so that capital gains are taxed as much as income. Gareth Morgan's Big Kahuna idea for a tax on capital is the simplest and most redistributive idea around.

The Central government and local government must urgently work together to build 50,000 new homes in Auckland and Christchurch - The combination of the market and local council regulation has clearly failed to deliver the affordable housing desperately needed to put some pressure downwards on house prices and make New Zealand an attractive place to live.

Rewrite the Reserve Bank Act to allow it to target other variables than inflation - These other targets should include a combination of the exchange rate, employment levels, the current account deficit, inflation and wages. Inflation targeting is now widely discredited overseas, yet the orthodox dominates at the Reserve Bank and Treasury.

Rewrite the Reserve Bank Act to allow it to buy government bonds directly from the government - This would allow the Reserve Bank to finance the government deficit once interest rates are cut to the lower bound of % and avoid deflation. It also removes the financing restriction for rebuilding Christchurch's infrastructure and Auckland's infrastructure, including housing. It may not be necessary just yet, but we're not far off given the current trends with employment, inflation, the global economy and the budget deficit.

Run a deficit for longer - The government needs to abandon its budget surplus target for 2014/15. Moody's has already said it would not downgrade New Zealand's credit rating if this happened and last year's credit rating downgrades by Fitch and Standard and Poor's did not lead to interest rate increases.

Read more: http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/61963/opinion-bernard-hickey-argues-weeks-unemployment-shock-and-housing-boom-figures-should
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