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Hide and seek with the old bulls
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Topic Started: 30 May 2012, 05:09 PM (1,413 Views)
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raveswei
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30 May 2012, 05:09 PM
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I noticed recently that some of the old bulls that were proven completely wrong so many times ("the black one", "the evil one", "the shitty one" ) are posting under new names ("the fooled one", "stingy one", "miking one", "timmid one"). All of them appeared here a couple weeks ago and already reached gold member statuses.
Even the old bulls are clear by now that house prices will not grow any time soon so they claim (under new names) that prices will not fall significantly from current levels because of all the false "fundamentals" (they are trying to stop panic sale by property speculators).
In a year of two these old bulls will probably open new accounts and claim how they actually predicted house price falls of 30% or 40% so we should trust their new prediction as well: prices to the moon.
That is just pathetic …
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Thinking of an Australian property speculator (PI):
Inaction = missing opportunities.
Missing opportunities = losing.
Too much thinking = inaction.
Thinking = missing opportunities.
Therefore thinking = losing.
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30 May 2012, 05:42 PM
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- raveswei
- 30 May 2012, 05:09 PM
posting under new names ("the fooled one", "stingy one", "miking one", )
Is that a reference to me? Who was I supposed to be? 
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30 May 2012, 05:44 PM
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- raveswei
- 30 May 2012, 05:09 PM
I noticed recently that some of the old bulls that were proven completely wrong so many times ("the black one", "the evil one", "the shitty one" ) are posting under new names ("the fooled one", "stingy one", "miking one", "timmid one"). All of them appeared here a couple weeks ago and already reached gold member statuses.
Even the old bulls are clear by now that house prices will not grow any time soon so they claim (under new names) that prices will not fall significantly from current levels because of all the false "fundamentals" (they are trying to stop panic sale by property speculators).
In a year of two these old bulls will probably open new accounts and claim how they actually predicted house price falls of 30% or 40% so we should trust their new prediction as well: prices to the moon.
That is just pathetic …
did you have to practice to write this sort of rubbish or is it a natural gift?
Most of the bulls that I read here have accepted some time ago that we are in a correction phase and prices will dip, and they have.
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timmy
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30 May 2012, 09:13 PM
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some how i don't think the bulls are anywhere near as wrong as the bears where who spruiked a 40% price crash 3 years ago.
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I am the love child of Tony Abbott and Pauline Hanson
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30 May 2012, 09:26 PM
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- peter fraser
- 30 May 2012, 05:44 PM
Most of the bulls that I read here have accepted some time ago that we are in a correction phase and prices will dip, and they have.
Care to name them?
I haven't been here long, but the only 'bull' that seems to have accepted we are in a correction is you. Be happy for you to name a few others though.
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schooner
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30 May 2012, 09:36 PM
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- raveswei
- 30 May 2012, 05:09 PM
I noticed recently that some of the old bulls that were proven completely wrong so many times ("the black one", "the evil one", "the shitty one" ) are posting under new names ("the fooled one", "stingy one", "miking one", "timmid one"). All of them appeared here a couple weeks ago and already reached gold member statuses.
Even the old bulls are clear by now that house prices will not grow any time soon so they claim (under new names) that prices will not fall significantly from current levels because of all the false "fundamentals" (they are trying to stop panic sale by property speculators).
In a year of two these old bulls will probably open new accounts and claim how they actually predicted house price falls of 30% or 40% so we should trust their new prediction as well: prices to the moon.
That is just pathetic …
I have never seen Shadow (Monkey boy) this quiet,looks like Foundation has won.
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30 May 2012, 10:27 PM
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- schooner
- 30 May 2012, 09:36 PM
I have never seen Shadow (Monkey boy) this quiet,looks like Foundation has won.
Foundation lost years ago. This was a GHPC post by Foundation in 2006.
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I assure you, rural / regional areas are sliding fast (except perhaps for WA generally and mining towns). Melbourne has had a dead-cat bounce, yet remains below nominal 2003 prices and around 15% below in real terms. It's index is now retreating rapidly again and I expect it will soon be back below 2005 'slump' levels.
Melbourne house prices, according to the ABS (the only data which counts according to Keen) are UP 52% since 2006. Foundation's failure was momentous - massive. That's why he disappeared to the http://www.simplesustainable.com website for recipes, wankers and failed GHPC renters. You know them schooner, the poor GHPC sods who celebrated the crash in early 2009 in pubs in Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney - just before the massive boom.
Shadow is perhaps away enjoying his winnings from his renters.
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Housing costs to Income broadly unchanged since 1994 - re-ratified here
The People of Australia have the highest median wealth in the World
2002-2012 10 year house price growth the SLOWEST since 1952-1962
1990-2010 20 year house price growth the SLOWEST since 1950-1970
CHRIS BECKER NOW NEUTERED
"There are two kinds of people in this world: ones that fiddle around wondering whether a thing's right or wrong and guys like us." (Hugo to Gagin in Ride the Pink Horse)
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30 May 2012, 10:39 PM
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- schooner
- 30 May 2012, 09:36 PM
I have never seen Shadow (Monkey boy) this quiet,looks like Foundation has won.
I've seen Shadow absent for a few weeks at a time in the past - he'll be back.
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My name is based on a Seinfeld character, not on a belief of a housing bubble.
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30 May 2012, 10:43 PM
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- genX
- 30 May 2012, 09:26 PM
Care to name them?
I haven't been here long, but the only 'bull' that seems to have accepted we are in a correction is you. Be happy for you to name a few others though.
Well, I for one am long-term bullish on property but am not blind to the fact that prices have come down and are at best flat pretty-much everywhere and still headed south in most places.
Fooling yourself can get very expensive.
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31 May 2012, 01:00 PM
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- 30 May 2012, 09:26 PM
Care to name them?
I haven't been here long, but the only 'bull' that seems to have accepted we are in a correction is you. Be happy for you to name a few others though.
I can only think of maybe one or two posters who might try and deny the fact that prices have fallen over the past 22 months. Most just go with the data as it stands? There might be discussions about whether using "real price fall" figures is valid or not - I personally like to stick with nominal numbers only as I borrow and pay in nominal dollars. And there is certainly a range of views as to whether we are currently in a "normal" cyclical correction or a Keen style cataclysm, but I don't recall many so called bullish posters denying the various house price index data?
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31 May 2012, 01:07 PM
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An old bull and a young bull were standing on a hill looking down on a valley full of cows.
"Hey", says the young bull. "Let’s run down and service one of those cows…"
"No", says the old bull. "Let’s walk down and service them all."
...Then an even older bull says, "No. Let's piss off over that hill before they see us."
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31 May 2012, 02:03 PM
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- raveswei
- 30 May 2012, 05:09 PM
I noticed recently that some of the old bulls that were proven completely wrong so many times ("the black one", "the evil one", "the shitty one" ) are posting under new names ("the fooled one", "stingy one", "miking one", "timmid one"). All of them appeared here a couple weeks ago and already reached gold member statuses.
Even the old bulls are clear by now that house prices will not grow any time soon so they claim (under new names) that prices will not fall significantly from current levels because of all the false "fundamentals" (they are trying to stop panic sale by property speculators).
In a year of two these old bulls will probably open new accounts and claim how they actually predicted house price falls of 30% or 40% so we should trust their new prediction as well: prices to the moon.
That is just pathetic …
Sounds to me like the cheese has finally slid off the cracker...
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31 May 2012, 02:07 PM
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- 30 May 2012, 09:26 PM
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Most of the bulls that I read here have accepted some time ago that we are in a correction phase and prices will dip, and they have.
Care to name them? I haven't been here long, but the only 'bull' that seems to have accepted we are in a correction is you. Be happy for you to name a few others though.
Some rate me a bull.
And yet in November 2010 I wrote here:
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House prices will fall .....
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In line with the OP's question, how much do you think will our house prices fall?
Nationally about 5%-10%.
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Housing costs to Income broadly unchanged since 1994 - re-ratified here
The People of Australia have the highest median wealth in the World
2002-2012 10 year house price growth the SLOWEST since 1952-1962
1990-2010 20 year house price growth the SLOWEST since 1950-1970
CHRIS BECKER NOW NEUTERED
"There are two kinds of people in this world: ones that fiddle around wondering whether a thing's right or wrong and guys like us." (Hugo to Gagin in Ride the Pink Horse)
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raveswei
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31 May 2012, 06:22 PM
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- peter fraser
- 30 May 2012, 05:44 PM
Most of the bulls that I read here have accepted some time ago that we are in a correction phase and prices will dip, and they have.
you must be living in some other reality
bulls I'm talking about predicted price increase or property boom in 2011 or 2012 - they are gone from the forum miraculously replaced by sockpuppets.
These bulls are hiding because they were wrong not only about scale of the price change but direction of the change.
PS. Why you are insulting me although I didn't mention you at all. Why you are so sensitive to this topic?
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Thinking of an Australian property speculator (PI):
Inaction = missing opportunities.
Missing opportunities = losing.
Too much thinking = inaction.
Thinking = missing opportunities.
Therefore thinking = losing.
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31 May 2012, 07:28 PM
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- Strindberg
- 31 May 2012, 02:07 PM
Of course it's worth reconsidering in full the calm and intellectually considered position Strindberg actually posted at that point:
"Stevens has now completely fucked up. House prices will fall but are now irrelevant in the big picture. The rest of the world's central bankers and governments are doing everything they can to maintain their own countries competitiveness and look after their own citizens through exchange rates. Stevens the filthy rich baptist prick is taking the opposite approach and fucking his own citizens. He is obsessed with keeping inflation below 3% (does it say thou must keep low inflation in the Bible) even if it means destroying all business (except his protected banks) and creating mass unemployment. He doesn't give a fuck. He reckons it'll all be fine in the promised land if we suffer enough in this one."
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