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Chart of Australia v Japan v USA house price falls from peak; Where is it?
Topic Started: 21 May 2012, 01:28 PM (6,849 Views)
audas
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peter fraser
23 May 2012, 12:11 PM
The population growth rate turned negative in 2005

Growth Rate Japan.
You're such a knob, read what i wrote, TREND LINE PETER !!


Even so - the 15 years preceeding the crash were without exception negative population,

Once again - you have NOTHING RIGHT.

You should impose a ban on yourself until you get something, anything right ...like say the date ? Or start with some simple maths - who knows.

Good to see you are being deleted from the other sites with your posts being blocked and banned - as they should be -


You have ZERO credibility and even less to add.
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audas
23 May 2012, 07:21 PM
peter fraser
23 May 2012, 12:11 PM
The population growth rate turned negative in 2005

Growth Rate Japan.
You're such a knob, read what i wrote, TREND LINE PETER !!


Even so - the 15 years preceeding the crash were without exception negative population,

Once again - you have NOTHING RIGHT.

You should impose a ban on yourself until you get something, anything right ...like say the date ? Or start with some simple maths - who knows.

Good to see you are being deleted from the other sites with your posts being blocked and banned - as they should be -


You have ZERO credibility and even less to add.
Firstly I well understood that you said trend line, I simply reiterated my point which was that population in Japan was growing until 2005 and then it turned negative.

I'm not banned at all from macrobusiness. You are mistaken. The site owners are quite welcome to delete any of my posts they choose to, it's their site after all and I respect that.

I feel very sorry for you audas. You clearly regard yourself as highly intelligent, and that gives you an exaggerated sense of entitlement. It must really annoy you that people you consider to be far less deserving than you have done well in life, quite likely in property, but here you are just another wannabe with little to show for the education that you have probably worked very hard for.

Kudos to you for having the determination and discipline to earn the qualifications that you have. However I must confess, so far I haven't been overwhelmed by the self proclaimed "smartest guy in the room" Overall I would probably assess you as a 115 which of course is quite credible, but far short of mensa requirements.

I would think that it is you who have a credibility issue, but of course that is for others to determine, and not you or I. I do hope that you regain some self control and continue to post here. In time you will acquire more knowledge and your posts will hopefully develop into something worth reading.

cheers...



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audas
23 May 2012, 07:21 PM
the 15 years preceeding the crash were without exception negative population
Wrong again -- 15 years "preceeding" [sic] the crash, were without exception positive population, didn't turn negative until 2005!!
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audas
23 May 2012, 07:21 PM
You're such a knob, read what i wrote, TREND LINE PETER !!


Even so - the 15 years preceeding the crash were without exception negative population,

Once again - you have NOTHING RIGHT.

You should impose a ban on yourself until you get something, anything right ...like say the date ? Or start with some simple maths - who knows.

Good to see you are being deleted from the other sites with your posts being blocked and banned - as they should be -


You have ZERO credibility and even less to add.
Audas

The falling trend line is showing a rising population until 2005
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audas
23 May 2012, 07:21 PM
You're such a knob, read what i wrote, TREND LINE PETER !!
Audus,

The trend line is increasingly pointing to you being a total dick.
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peter fraser
23 May 2012, 04:28 PM

But what will they do when the few are supporting the many as the population pyramid reverses? they aren't having babies fast enough, and they don't like immigration.

There must come a crunch moment.
I don't really know enough about how the Japanese economy works to answer, but some thoughts as to why they might be able to pull it off better than a lot of places:

1. The pyramid started reversing in Japan earlier than anywhere else. I assume they are well into it by now.

2. When it started reversing, Japan was already very rich. (Unlike, say, China)

3. At the moment in Japan, wages are very high and taxes are very high. Standard of living seems higher than in oz (except when it comes to living space)

4. At some stage, the demographic mix will stabilize again, unless the birthrate continues to decline.

5. As the population falls, the existing wealth gets distributed among fewer people which will be a cushion of sorts.

6. It depends a lot on how the pensions are funded as well.

7. In a perverse way there is a also a cushion in the huge inefficiency in the Japanese service sector. (in fact every sector other than manufacturing) As the working-age population shrinks, they can introduce efficiency gradually while maintaining high employment and stop production declining or even boost it a bit. There's a lot of make-work going on at the moment.

8. The Japanese seem to have great solidarity.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/22/us-japan-ratings-fitch-idUSBRE84L0LH20120522

Fitch downgraded Japan’s credit rating by 2 notches to A+ with a negative outlook, citing the Japanese government’s ineffectiveness in reducing the public debt burden.

Japans fiscal death is a warning to the world

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9283417/Japans-fiscal-death-is-a-warning-to-the-West.html

Japan's debt has jumped by 61 percentage points of GDP since 2008, compared to eight points for the AAA bloc.

"Japan's addiction to public sector spending is way beyond the boundaries or remedial `austerity'," said Dylan Grice from Societe Generale. "Political pressure on the Bank of Japan to crank the printing presses into top gear will become irresistible. We see no alternative."
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23 May 2012, 08:38 PM
peter fraser
23 May 2012, 04:28 PM

But what will they do when the few are supporting the many as the population pyramid reverses? they aren't having babies fast enough, and they don't like immigration.

There must come a crunch moment.
I don't really know enough about how the Japanese economy works to answer, but some thoughts as to why they might be able to pull it off better than a lot of places:

1. The pyramid started reversing in Japan earlier than anywhere else. I assume they are well into it by now.

2. When it started reversing, Japan was already very rich. (Unlike, say, China)

3. At the moment in Japan, wages are very high and taxes are very high. Standard of living seems higher than in oz (except when it comes to living space)

4. At some stage, the demographic mix will stabilize again, unless the birthrate continues to decline.

5. As the population falls, the existing wealth gets distributed among fewer people which will be a cushion of sorts.

6. It depends a lot on how the pensions are funded as well.

7. In a perverse way there is a also a cushion in the huge inefficiency in the Japanese service sector. (in fact every sector other than manufacturing) As the working-age population shrinks, they can introduce efficiency gradually while maintaining high employment and stop production declining or even boost it a bit. There's a lot of make-work going on at the moment.

8. The Japanese seem to have great solidarity.
Thanks - sorry about the questions. What happens in Japan is important to this country, not to me personally, but I enjoy acquiring knowledge.

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4. At some stage, the demographic mix will stabilize again, unless the birthrate continues to decline.


I agree - at a guess perhaps by 2040 the age demographic will have rebalanced and the population should return to normal growth rates, but they could lose 20% of their population first. Technology should overcome the production problem.

It's interesting to see how other nations approach problems.

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peter fraser
23 May 2012, 05:18 PM
Your capacity to get to work in under one hour is the last thing on my mind, it's up to you to organise your life to the maximum advantage to you, it's just not my responsibility. Growth can't be infinite? - why not? Your statement makes no sense.

Of course it isn't. You just want to sell as much debt as possible. You don't give a shit about the broader implications. Head first into a Bladerunner society says you.
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Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments.
Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck!
See here
Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
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23 May 2012, 09:09 PM
Of course it isn't. You just want to sell as much debt as possible. You don't give a shit about the broader implications. Head first into a Bladerunner society says you.
I'm here to acquire knowledge moops, and clearly you have none to impart.

Please don't waste your time or mine with these nonsense posts.

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