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The party is well and truly over - GFC Act II has arrived; Get Ready: We’re About To Have Another 2008-Style Crisis
Topic Started: 17 May 2012, 10:43 AM (6,608 Views)
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audas
17 May 2012, 07:41 PM
peter fraser
17 May 2012, 07:27 PM
There was certainly the Cuban Missile Crisis circa 1962 but I don't know of another, although until Gorbachev changed the direction of the USSR it was always dicy.

There was a reason why musicians wrote songs like this -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntLsElbW9Xo

and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HVACPv_KFw&feature=related
Thanks Peter - :re:

Just to clarify things for you mate because I know you don't have any qualifications in this area - it was never the USSR causing the trouble but the USA.

The USSR went to the USA several times asking to stop the arms race and end the GAP. It became stated US policy that in order to defeat the USSR economically they needed to force the arms race harder and push for war if it meant victory - on several occasions the Russians sought a truce and peace - denied by the Americans.

The culmination of the second world war with the detonation of two atomic weapons in japan had fuck all to do with the war, it was entirely about showing the Russians the iron will and the intent of the Americans, their willingness if you will, to use atomic weapons - it shocked the Russians no end that the Americans were that fucking crazy -

The war waged against the USSR was not about weapons or even communism, it was entirely about allowing American corporations access to Russian resources and markets - there was no change in direction from Gorbachev via Glasnost or Perestroika - the Russian economy simply collapsed under sanctions and pressure from the US - if the US weren't such complete dicks about controlling markets and resources the USSR would more than likely still be with us today in a thriving economy similar to China only further ahead - in fact, in reality it is.

Would you like some reference text from my studies to brush up ?

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Why audas I think that's about the most diplomatic you have ever been, you only slipped in a couple of barbs, are you ok?

No I really don't have a problem with your point that the USA caused many of the problems. The USSR did have financial problems when they tried to keep up with Regans star wars program, which incidentally started the debt build up in the USA, but let's move on.

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peter fraser
17 May 2012, 02:55 PM
Have you bought your AK47 and dugout yet.

TRB recommends Whitecliffs - wherever that is, somewhere in NSW I think. You will need ammo, long life milk, canned food, cigarettes, alcohol, toilet paper, medical supplies, the lot really. Convert your money to gold and trinkets for trading, and some educational material for the kids.

Best of luck...
No I will rape steal and piliage just like everyone else. Agenda 21 is real, can anyone seriously debunk it? I drink too much tap water to prepare for the imploding.
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zaph
17 May 2012, 05:53 PM
people often mention food stamps, but I'm not sure what they are and their significance.

who gets stamps? from who? how can you spend them? etc?

is it government provided welfare that can only be spent on essentials?
Food stamps are a top up after social security money runs out. Jp Morgan USA,s biggest bank owns and runs the program. Can you imagine west pac or nab doing this. Us Australians have no idea what the USA is going through. A lot of these posters on this site are simply speculators with an massive amount of blind optimism and a bigger bag of arrogance. They forget that it is possible the sun will not continue to shine.




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17 May 2012, 06:36 PM
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17 May 2012, 06:25 PM
I lived in Germany in 1981 as a high-school student, and absolutely everyone my age was totally petrified that aramgeddon was going to come across the East-German border. I hope never to live in such a state of constant fear again.
Even in Australia in the early - mid 80s as a high school student I was terrified that there was going to be a nuclear war. Even though I had no drivers license yet, I got my father to teach me to drive on dirt roads, and I had an elaborate "escape plan" worked out for if the "sirens" sounds and the missiles were on their way to nuke Sydney CBD! It sounds funny now, but it was deadly serious for a kid back then - I used to have nightmares about it.
You are one serious fucked up individual.....but thankyou for sharing. Explains a lot.
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earthsta
17 May 2012, 10:39 PM
You are one serious fucked up individual.....but thankyou for sharing. Explains a lot.
Why are you filled with so much anger and bitterness? :?:
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The party ain't over until our disgraceful policy makers run out of ideas and we get to .25%

Lets not forget what happened to our prices during "GFC round 1".

-there's a new way of doing things around here baby! :pop:
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Starlightdiscs
17 May 2012, 09:21 PM
Food stamps are a top up after social security money runs out. Jp Morgan USA,s biggest bank owns and runs the program. Can you imagine west pac or nab doing this. Us Australians have no idea what the USA is going through. A lot of these posters on this site are simply speculators with an massive amount of blind optimism and a bigger bag of arrogance. They forget that it is possible the sun will not continue to shine.



thanks.

i presume it is a govt funded program?

are food stamps enough to feed yourself/family? any idea how much you get?

if there are 50m people on food stamps, that's around 15% of the USA population who have run out of social security. that's huge.

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earthsta
17 May 2012, 10:39 PM
You are one serious fucked up individual.....but thankyou for sharing. Explains a lot.
That's Ok, your response explains a lot about why you are such an abusive arsehole most of the time with no capacity for empathy, or ability to read all the posts in a thread......
Edited by Sydneyite, 18 May 2012, 10:42 AM.
For Aussie property bears, "denial", is not just a long river in North Africa.....
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NotFooled
17 May 2012, 10:42 PM
Why are you filled with so much anger and bitterness? :?:
You'd be bitter and twisted too if, like earthsta, you'd sold your family home years ago to rent promising your missus it was just for a short time until after the crash, and had to put up with your wife repeatedly taunting you with your failure to provide her and the kids with their own home whilst you spent all day gambling and failing on the stock exchange.
Housing costs to Income broadly unchanged since 1994 - re-ratified here
The People of Australia have the highest median wealth in the World
2002-2012 10 year house price growth the SLOWEST since 1952-1962
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audas
17 May 2012, 07:41 PM
Thanks Peter - :re:

Just to clarify things for you mate because I know you don't have any qualifications in this area - it was never the USSR causing the trouble but the USA.

The USSR went to the USA several times asking to stop the arms race and end the GAP. It became stated US policy that in order to defeat the USSR economically they needed to force the arms race harder and push for war if it meant victory - on several occasions the Russians sought a truce and peace - denied by the Americans.

The culmination of the second world war with the detonation of two atomic weapons in japan had fuck all to do with the war, it was entirely about showing the Russians the iron will and the intent of the Americans, their willingness if you will, to use atomic weapons - it shocked the Russians no end that the Americans were that fucking crazy -

The war waged against the USSR was not about weapons or even communism, it was entirely about allowing American corporations access to Russian resources and markets - there was no change in direction from Gorbachev via Glasnost or Perestroika - the Russian economy simply collapsed under sanctions and pressure from the US - if the US weren't such complete dicks about controlling markets and resources the USSR would more than likely still be with us today in a thriving economy similar to China only further ahead - in fact, in reality it is.

Would you like some reference text from my studies to brush up ?

:re:
The US nuked Japan because the Russia and Japan's ceasefire had come to an end, and the Russians were pouring into Korea, soon to be invading Japan. The US didn't want an East and West Japan, so they nuked them to end the war quickly. I thought everyone knew that?
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