I was being a little facetious. I am sure there are people with degrees etc. out on the drilling rigs. But the people who work as engineers and geologists tend to be at head office. The drilling rigs tend to be small camps - just operating the machines - more manual skills are the go. Mining sites are different of course - bigger operations - and the geologists and engineers get out in the field but aren't the 14x12 bus in bus out crowd. My brother doesn't have a trade, but had a lot of time up on heavy machinery, and I think that helped him get the job in the first place - after more than a year of working at getting in. He started out as a labourer - but a labourer who earned as much as an engineer behind a desk in Sydney.
As you say, competitive. Dunno about WA, but the story that you can just walk out to the mines or gasfields in Qld and pick up a job driving trucks for a fortune is a myth. Operating plant is a skill with qualifications and you need the tickets. Also, at the first sign of a downturn these guys start cutting shifts fairly fast and people lose their jobs.
depends what kind of engineer? It ranges from design engineers to site, to setout engineers (surveyors) which spend near on most of their time out on site. On the VDP project im currently on, they had 14,000 trades apply for the project and only one in 10 got in, yet surveyors? Struggled to find them the whole length of the project.
depends what kind of engineer? It ranges from design engineers to site, to setout engineers (surveyors) which spend near on most of their time out on site. On the VDP project im currently on, they had 14,000 trades apply for the project and only one in 10 got in, yet surveyors? Struggled to find them the whole length of the project.
Yeah. I am thinking about the drilling sites. These are small camps. Maybe 20-30 people max. All the surveying, etc. is well and truly done by the time they show up. I imagine things might be different once it becomes time to populate the hole, etc.
Interesting about Surveyors. Not surprised there is a shortage, since they shut down Surveying degrees in a lot of places in the 1980s.
But it seems it is competitive everywhere.
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Yeah. I am thinking about the drilling sites. These are small camps. Maybe 20-30 people max. All the surveying, etc. is well and truly done by the time they show up. I imagine things might be different once it becomes time to populate the hole, etc.
Interesting about Surveyors. Not surprised there is a shortage, since they shut down Surveying degrees in a lot of places in the 1980s.
But it seems it is competitive everywhere.
yeah! the average age of a licensed surveyor in Melbourne is 57, care to share what you do miw, you seem to have a decent idea on whats going on!
yeah! the average age of a licensed surveyor in Melbourne is 57, care to share what you do miw, you seem to have a decent idea on whats going on!
By birth I'm a cattle farmer. By training I am an electrical engineer, computer scientist and sinologist. By profession I have been a computer network engineer, product marketer and large-scale computer network/telecommunications architect. These days I refuse to ever deal with another employer, dabbling in software development and investing or anything else I want to do that people will pay me to do.
I'm amazed at the average age of licenced surveyors. A couple of my best mates at uni did surveying and I was astounded by how hard the maths they had to do was. How do you get to be a licenced surveyor these days?
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By birth I'm a cattle farmer. By training I am an electrical engineer, computer scientist and sinologist. By profession I have been a computer network engineer, product marketer and large-scale computer network/telecommunications architect. These days I refuse to ever deal with another employer, dabbling in software development and investing or anything else I want to do that people will pay me to do.
I'm amazed at the average age of licenced surveyors. A couple of my best mates at uni did surveying and I was astounded by how hard the maths they had to do was. How do you get to be a licenced surveyor these days?
nice! its not very often people on here 'show' their cards Yeah the maths is brutal, but i hear doing meterology is even harder.
For victoria (other states have similar policys) It takes 4 years for the degree, then you have to do 2 small subdivisions and 2 large ones. You will also need someone to supervise you. It can take years to find suitable jobs, especially the bigger ones are normally done right out in the bush. The redtape is astounding. And the licence is not transferable from state to state either. But of late you can apply for it to change.
Ill wait till we've dug up all the dirt out west, then hopefully i own a place outright, ill complete the degree
nice! its not very often people on here 'show' their cards Yeah the maths is brutal, but i hear doing meterology is even harder.
It is? I've known, although not closely, two surveyors and they seemed to be pretty simple people to me.
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