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Is APF a bear forum or a bull forum? And which team is winning?
APF is a BEAR Forum 16 (32.7%)
APF is a BULL Forum 10 (20.4%)
APF is a NEUTRAL Forum 23 (46.9%)
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Is APF a bear forum or a bull forum? Which team is winning?
Topic Started: 14 Apr 2012, 05:48 PM (9,474 Views)
carter
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To be honest last year I felt APF was a lot more bearish, this year it feels more like invasion of the spruikers posting their houses to the moon stories. I didn't know whether that reflects a change in the mainstream media reflected here or a change in the APF member composition. I thought it would be a revealing exercise to divide the top 40 posters (highest number of posts) into bull and bear teams, the results did surprise me because I expected to see a lot more bulls than this, maybe it's that the bulls post more, or that their posts annoy me more so I notice their volume more? Anyhow here is the division. I apologise if I put people in the wrong team, I know some people are nearly neutral but I split everyone based on gut feel. What do you think, are the bulls getting on top again in 2012 compared to 2011 or is it my imagination?

BULL
Shadow
Strindberg
Frank Castle
peter fraser
Black Panther
Sydneyite
b_b
Trojan
barns
kennyjaiz
NotFooled
Sherlock
stinkbug

BEAR
raveswei
Catweasel
Rastus2
earthsta
davel
zaph
newjez
BubbleBoy
Sunder
matthew_50
hoofarted
Perthite
BubbleTrouble
Elastic
muzza
Lefty
themoops
Wisebear
Sprog
Jacks money
Mc_Gusto
nipa hut
Count du Monet
dave289
Aussiehouseprices
Olmule
Maveri
The Claw
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An interesting exercise!

I'd say that APF is probably a neutral forum, which is why we have so many rowdy debates.

Also, I think I probably identify more with the bull team than the bear team, but am 'sitting on the fence' about property short to medium term. Long term, definitely a bull.
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That's very interesting, 13 bulls against 27 bears, no wonder the bulls go home every day smashed and beaten to a pulp. I'm surprised they drag their sorry arses back here every day for another whipping. The bulls are definitely noisier and that's why it feels like there's more of them, they repeating the same discredited cherry picked crap over and over again, like the charts that mysteriously all begin in 2003 and seem to end up in every thread, and the copy&paste list of personal attacks on Steve Keen that somehow have to appear every time his name gets mentions. The trolls on the forum all fall into the bull group as far as I'm concerned.
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You can put me down in the bear column, if I post here enough to be worth counting!

But I am not a bear expecting a 40% crash, just to note. I find anyone with any bearish views is immediately tarred with that brush in debates.
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Am not a bear.
My name is based on a Seinfeld character, not on a belief of a housing bubble.
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14 Apr 2012, 06:33 PM
Am not a bear.
I know you said this before but my gut feel was you were more bearish than bullish? I suppose the question is do you think prices are more likely to rise or fall over the next several years? If you had to go one way or the other what way would you go?
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If you can be stuffed, it would be interesting to see the proportion of posts for each group.

I imagine that "post per bull" is higher than "post per bear"
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carter
14 Apr 2012, 07:07 PM
I know you said this before but my gut feel was you were more bearish than bullish? I suppose the question is do you think prices are more likely to rise or fall over the next several years? If you had to go one way or the other what way would you go?
Just because I believe in policies that would make home ownership more affordable (eg getting rid of NG, reasonable rather than excessive rates of migration) does not mean that I believe that house prices will become drastically more affordable. I am realistic enough to realise that there is almost no chance of NG being removed.

As for property prices, I hate making predictions other than to say I think a crash is very unlikely- but if pressed, my instincts tell me Melbourne prices will continue to show some weakness in the short term, but in the long term should show moderate rises.
My name is based on a Seinfeld character, not on a belief of a housing bubble.
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Maybe there should be a neutral group, with bubble boy, catweasel et al?
Whenever you have an argument with someone, there comes a moment where you must ask yourself, whatever your political persuasion, 'am I the Nazi?'
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14 Apr 2012, 07:21 PM
Just because I believe in policies that would make home ownership more affordable (eg getting rid of NG, reasonable rather than excessive rates of migration) does not mean that I believe that house prices will become drastically more affordable. I am realistic enough to realise that there is almost no chance of NG being removed.
Those are fair points, but still attitude wise and socially I think you're one of us, or at least more closely aligned (that's a good thing!) :D

Olmule, nice idea, here's the list with number of posts in each team.

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