The science that links human activity to climate change is as strong as the science that links smoking to lung cancer.
But there is no science that links smoking to lung cancer - what you think of is not science.
You are confusing science with "science". Even if all scientists on this world agree that sun is circling around the Earth that will not change the fact that it doesn't. Scientific “consensus” is not science it’s more politics than science. Democracy doesn’t work in this case because natural laws are not written by the majority.
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Can you PROVE anything to the entire Australian population? Can you PROVE anything to me, or any other person?
I can prove many things: that gravity pools down toward the centre (mass) of an object, that electromagnetic force is proportional to change of magnetic flux, that earth is circling around the Sun ...
But there is no science that links smoking to lung cancer - what you think of is not science.
You are confusing science with "science". Even if all scientists on this world agree that sun is circling around the Earth that will not change the fact that it doesn't. Scientific “consensus” is not science it’s more politics than science. Democracy doesn’t work in this case because natural laws are not written by the majority.
I can prove many things: that gravity pools down toward the centre (mass) of an object, that electromagnetic force is proportional to change of magnetic flux, that earth is circling around the Sun ...
You are the sole reason people should have a license to post on the internet.
The science that links human activity to climate change is as strong as the science that links smoking to lung cancer.
yet some will still claim that there is no proof that smoking causes cancer because there has not been multiple double blind cross over placebo trials resulting in a cochrane review.
The science that links human activity to climate change is as strong as the science that links smoking to lung cancer.
yet some will still claim that there is no proof that smoking causes cancer because there has not been multiple double blind cross over placebo trials resulting in a cochrane review.
I'd suggest that the effects of a days smoking on the lungs of a human being are a quarrillion times more intense than the release of greenhouse gases in a day on the earth.
however, i would consider myself above average in knowledge. I have a degree in science and a background in Chemistry and Physics which make some no expert but it probably helps me understand somewhat.
The one major thing that is bugging me with the science of climate change is the fact that most of the predictions are based on incredibly complex "climate models". These models are not complete yet and they are constantly being changed and altered as the scientists realise that they fail to accurately predict climate change even in the short term. Basically, they change the variables when they realise it does not confirm their theories. A bit backwards if you ask me.
having said that, the climate may very well be warming up. The questions is why and if it matters.
Seems we have a similar background!
I'll try to help you here. You mention the models cannot even predict in the short term. This is understandable as the short-term is actually harder to predict than longer term since the time-frame is more defined and noise is more pronounced. A real world example is share prices - have a look at a 30day plot vs a 2 year plot - which one has more relative noise and is easier to spot trends and make a prediction about?
Yes, the models are not perfect and I'm certainly no expert in them. The underlying prediction of RISK about the climate do not generally require any complex modelling.
But there is no science that links smoking to lung cancer - what you think of is not science.
You are confusing science with "science". Even if all scientists on this world agree that sun is circling around the Earth that will not change the fact that it doesn't. Scientific “consensus” is not science it’s more politics than science. Democracy doesn’t work in this case because natural laws are not written by the majority.
I can prove many things: that gravity pools down toward the centre (mass) of an object, that electromagnetic force is proportional to change of magnetic flux, that earth is circling around the Sun ...
Actually you can't even prove the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around. Nobody can. It almost certainly does, but you can't prove it.
having said that, the climate may very well be warming up. The questions is why and if it matters.
Exactly.
Even as one who accepts that anthropomorphic greenhouse gas emissions are changing the environment, I see little convincing science about the rate at which such change is occurring now, or is likely to occur in the nearterm future.
And I see little commentary of value from the scientific community on the "prevent vs mitigate vs adapt" question. That is not surprising, as pragmatic scenario-planning and problem-solving are not core pure science skills (except when it comes to writing research program funding requests), but rather lie in the realms of engineering, economics, and politics.
The boat has already sailed on prevention, and the debate on mitigation vs adaptation has barely begun.
But there is no science that links smoking to lung cancer - what you think of is not science.
You are confusing science with "science". Even if all scientists on this world agree that sun is circling around the Earth that will not change the fact that it doesn't. Scientific “consensus” is not science it’s more politics than science. Democracy doesn’t work in this case because natural laws are not written by the majority.
I can prove many things: that gravity pools down toward the centre (mass) of an object, that electromagnetic force is proportional to change of magnetic flux, that earth is circling around the Sun ...
Let's do a survey to see how many people you have convinced of these 3 theories then ?
Even as one who accepts that anthropomorphic greenhouse gas emissions are changing the environment, I see little convincing science about the rate at which such change is occurring now, or is likely to occur in the nearterm future.
And I see little commentary of value from the scientific community on the "prevent vs mitigate vs adapt" question. That is not surprising, as pragmatic scenario-planning and problem-solving are not core pure science skills (except when it comes to writing research program funding requests), but rather lie in the realms of engineering, economics, and politics.
The boat has already sailed on prevention, and the debate on mitigation vs adaptation has barely begun.
Indeed it is an area of economics. You've probably read the summary of The Stern Review which is the most famous of the economic works on CO2 cost.
There is much debate on this and related works - not surprisingly.
knowledge about definition of science (hard science), scientific method, intersubjective verifiability and similar topics is beyond most of posters here so I will NOT go deeper into this.
science is very strictly defined subject so read about this topic
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