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How will global ecosystem cope with world population growth and development of emerging economies?; Human cost of inaction incalculable
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Human cost of inaction incalculable

March 21, 2012

Do you ever wonder how the environment - the global ecosystem - will cope with the continuing growth in the world population plus the rapid economic development of China, India and various other ''emerging economies''? I do. And it's not a comforting thought. But now that reputable and highly orthodox outfit the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development has attempted to think it through systematically. In its report Environmental Outlook to 2050, it projects existing socio-economic trends for 40 years, assuming no new policies to counter environmental problems.

It's not possible to know what the future holds, of course, and such modelling - economic or scientific - is a highly imperfect way of making predictions. Even so, some idea is better than no idea. It's possible the organisation's projections are unduly pessimistic, but it's just as likely they understate the problem because they don't adequately capture the way various problems could interact and compound. Then there's the problem of ''tipping points''. We know natural systems have tipping points, beyond which damaging change becomes irreversible. There are likely to be tipping points in climate change, species loss, groundwater depletion and land degradation.

''However, these thresholds are in many cases not yet fully understood, nor are the environmental, social and economic consequences of crossing them,'' the report admits. In which case, they're not allowed for in the projections.

Over the past four decades, human endeavour has unleashed unprecedented economic growth in the pursuit of higher living standards. While the world's population has increased by more than 3 billion people since 1970, the size of the world economy has more than tripled. Although this growth has pulled millions out of poverty, it has been unevenly distributed and has incurred significant cost to the environment. Natural assets continue to be depleted, with the services those assets deliver already compromised by environmental pollution.

The United Nations is projecting further population growth of 2 billion by 2050. Cities are likely to absorb this growth. By 2050, nearly 70 per cent of the world population is projected to be living in urban areas.

''This will magnify challenges such as air pollution, transport congestion, and the management of waste and water in slums, with serious consequences for human health,'' it says.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/human-cost-of-inaction-incalculable-20120320-1vhrv.html#ixzz1piFlAleO
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The ecosystem will carry on fine, albeit substantially changed. The question is, how will humans cope in a world with an increasingly hostile climate?
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Africa's population boom unlike anything in history

Elisabeth Rosenthal
April 21, 2012

LAGOS, Nigeria: In a quarter of a century, at the rate Nigeria is growing, 300 million people, a population about as big as that of the present day US, will live in a country only slightly larger than Nevada, Arizona and New Mexico.

In the commercial hub of Lagos, where the population has by some estimates nearly doubled over 15 years to 21 million, living standards for many are falling.

Lifelong residents like Peju Taofika and her three granddaughters inhabit a room in a typical apartment block known as a ''Face Me, Face You'' because whole families squeeze into 2.1-metre by 3.3-metre rooms along a narrow corridor. Up to 50 people share a kitchen, toilet and sink - though the pipes in the neighbourhood often no longer carry water.

At Alapere Primary School, more than 100 students cram into most classrooms, two to a desk.

As graduates pour out of high schools and universities, the unemployment rate is nearly 50 per cent for people in urban areas aged 15 to 24 - driving crime and discontent.

The growing upper-middle class also feels the squeeze, as commutes from even nearby suburbs can run two to three hours.

Last October, the UN announced the global population had breached 7 billion and would expand rapidly for decades, taxing natural resources if countries cannot better manage the growth.

Nearly all of the increase is in sub-Saharan Africa, where the rise in population outstrips economic expansion. Of the roughly 20 countries where women average more than five children, almost all are in the region.

Sub-Saharan Africa, which now accounts for 12 per cent of the world's population, will account for more than a third by 2100, by many projections.

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/world/africas-population-boom-unlike-anything-in-history-20120420-1xcf2.html
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21 Mar 2012, 08:35 PM
The ecosystem will carry on fine, albeit substantially changed. The question is, how will humans cope in a world with an increasingly hostile climate?
The ecosystem will not carry on fine - there is considerable evidence it may well be irrevocably destroyed.
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audas
25 Apr 2012, 09:47 AM
The ecosystem will not carry on fine - there is considerable evidence it may well be irrevocably destroyed.
What an idiotic drama queen you have become. The Earth's ecosystem has undergone many catastrophic changes in the past and yet life is still here. Our earth is resilient and adaptable, we are not.
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25 Apr 2012, 10:36 AM
What an idiotic drama queen you have become. The Earth's ecosystem has undergone many catastrophic changes in the past and yet life is still here. Our earth is resilient and adaptable, we are not.
Don't call me an idiotic drama queen, I am clearly streets ahead of you in this area - so settle down petal and read the science on the issue.

Unchecked business as usual has the potential to strip our planet of the entire oxygenated atmosphere killing all life on it - that's a fucking FACT.

Go read it, study up, learn your shit and stop insulting me when you clearly have no idea - seriously.


Very happy to provide you with a list of books by world leading authorities on this issue who all back up what I am saying.

It is beyond when laymen like yourself who have almost no working knowledge on things like this, have read almost nothing, and are basically clueless some how assume they have got it all down pat - just a wondrous level of ignorance sheltering you from all the facts leaving you in a comparative garden of Eden of self assurances - its got a name too mate - Dunning Kruger. The dumber people are and the less informed they are, subsequently the more confident they are in their assumptions and beliefs as the do not have a wide enough field of knowledge to understand what they do not know - go look that up while your there too champ.

Almost the entire history of our planet has been spent in a fight against Carbon Dioxide, storing it away and life was unable to flourish - eventually as more carbon was locked away and oxygen dominated the balance life was able to flourish, on the 24 earth clock this happened at about 1 hour till midnight - comprehend ? Do you understand what that means ? The catastrophic climate changes over the geological time frame of life on this planet are primarily due to flux within our orbit, rotation, and ellipse - however the balance of carbonification of the atmosphere was firmly tipped in favour of oxygen - the snow ball period was a wobble effect and the impact of India on Asia, and the Yucatan impact both caused major disturbances on the balance yes - but nothing like the scale of release we are seeing today - if this continues unabated we could see runaway carbon releases with will turn our planet into self feeding loop which simply releases all the carbon from the methane cathylrates, soils, arctic tundras etc back into the atmosphere - the consequences of that are an atmosphere which could very well kill all life on this planet.

This process would also acidify the oceans - something which is already happening RIGHT NOW.

The upshot of this is that we have a super dense self perpetuating atmosphere of carbon, methane acids etc - pretty much all life would be eradicated. So no, not according to very single glo0bal warming scientist on earth the The ecosystem will ABSOLUTELY NOT carry on fine. That's the FUCKING POINT of what is being said by all the scientists, this is why they are alarmed this is why in 1992 almost every single Nobel laureate signed a petition pleading for urgent action.

These is the expected outcome if global average temperatures exceed 6 degrees above normal. You got that ! The current trend line (pre GFC admittedly which has been the best possible thing to happen for the global warming) is heading directly towards that by the end of this century.


Got that champ - thats not an alarmist made up scenario - thats exactly what is going to happen if things continue as they are unchecked, as I have read it from literally hundreds of papers, books and articles on the subject - not from politicians, interested parties or propagandists - but DIRECTLY from the scientists themselves.


Go and educate yourself - seriously - you need to learn that your not as smart as you think you are - you are not.



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25 Apr 2012, 11:43 AM
Rant Rant Rant

your not as smart as you think you are
The irony!!
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LOL, Audus has turned into a delusional, raving fanatic :lol sure the world is coming to an end. I wonder if he and his followers have their black Nikes on yet?

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25 Apr 2012, 01:38 PM
LOL, Audus has turned into a delusional, raving fanatic :lol sure the world is coming to an end. I wonder if he and his followers have their black Nikes on yet?

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Please list some of the books you have read on the subject - or is this type of pathetic mud slinging the very best you can offer.

If you don't put it up we will all know how moronic you are - resorting to this kind of crap.
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25 Apr 2012, 01:13 PM
The irony!!
well done tiger - you spotted a grammatical / spelling error - you're a genius.

Anything to offer or is that seriously the best you can do ?

If I go through you're posts am I not going to find a single mistake ? If I do will you admit to being a hypocritical pedant and general pecker ?

if this is the best that people can offer around here it is absolutely no wonder that any mention of this site is banned by respectable forums with intelligent people on them.



Here is a summary of responses by sherlock and not fooled - "boo hoo, I have no answer to any post with actual intelligence involved Im going to ridicule the person with primary school insults and pick on their grammar".

Jesus you guys are sad sacks of shit.
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