It's a very complex and political science but I do believe the warming camp is proving their case. Ice still reforms every winter and year by year climatic variance influences this, but at the core of the arctic sea ice matter is it's thickness and solidity. A report I read recently stated that unlike a few decades ago the 2012 sea ice mass was no longer a solid contiguous sheet but was more like a slushy composed of small broken pieces floating in a pack.
Shadow was hopelessly wrong about the Gold Bull Market. What else is he wrong about?
JesusJones, did you read any of that article? or just the headline?
Did you read any of the blog I linked to?
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I remember my dad telling me we I was a young lad 'son this global warming is a load of bollox, weather is weather' it's been doing the same thing for millions of years'... He's always correct.
It's a very complex and political science but I do believe the warming camp is proving their case. Ice still reforms every winter and year by year climatic variance influences this, but at the core of the arctic sea ice matter is it's thickness and solidity. A report I read recently stated that unlike a few decades ago the 2012 sea ice mass was no longer a solid contiguous sheet but was more like a slushy composed of small broken pieces floating in a pack.
Wouldn't that be what you'd expect when it was new sea ice?
Not that I'm not very wary of short-term phenomena as indicators of a phenomenon that is variable and very long term. It could be like a 5% reversal in a long term trend.
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I remember my dad telling me we I was a young lad 'son this global warming is a load of bollox, weather is weather' it's been doing the same thing for millions of years'... He's always correct.
that sounds pretty damn close to what my drunken uncle used to say, which for the record was 'one day these pricks are going to make a lot of money out of all this'. I used to think he was obsessed with things that didn't matter and that he watched far too much ABC and SBS news, but it turns out he actually got a few things right and I miss him.
The difficulty is, when it comes to those of us in the climate change camp, that humankind will have to deal with what we do to our own climate. It may or may not cause apocalyptic changes but we better be damn sure it doesn't.
Even slight increases in our average temperature will have far reaching, environmental and economic repercussions. The hotter it gets, the more likely more of the permafrost at the poles melts, which is currently releasing billions of tons of methane and CO2 into the atmosphere. Forget CO2, It's already done it's part. CO2 buildup has been a catalyst for this much more worrying problem.
Now we have the very real danger of a feedback loop.
I believe there is nothing we can do to prevent this, but there are measures that we can use to minimise the damage.
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A study in the science journal Nature says the release of 50-gigatonnes of methane over a decade will result in flooding, sea-level rise, agriculture damage and health impacts amounting to $60 trillion - which was roughly the size of the entire global economy last year.
I'd rather we worked on the assumption of the worst outcome and it not happen, than work on the assumption of the best outcome and the worst happens.
Before anyone says anything, cow farts are a miniscule part of the methane reserves in our environment.
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