'Surely it can be a quantified'? What makes you so certain... have you ever seen the impact of those things quantified?
I don't believe the impact of those things are any more quantifiable than the impact of humans on climate change.
I'd be interested to hear why you disagree with me.
Catweasel laugh. Well a impact of the human on the CO2 level in a atmosphere been a quantified. Not a matter if it a correct or the not. Fact the be it a been done. Catweasel agree that its the impact cannot be the quantified precise. If body of scientific the think suggest that human have impact, not a necessarily a so.
Like a Monckton.
In case of mouse house, mouzealot have the plenty of predict, but none the model of how its future is the modeled. Further the more, it have plenty the narrative, but not the model with quantifiable variable.
So shouldn't mouzealot be as a skeptical of mouse house vision as a climate the change?
Catweasel laugh. Didn't it express mouse house price closer to AUD1 million by a 2015?
That's a prediction of a possible future event, not a statement of fact about what has happened in the past, like statements made about the impact of human activity on climate change.
That's a prediction of a possible future event, not a statement of fact about what has happened in the past, like statements made about the impact of human activity on climate change.
Good the gawd. So mouzealot's predict is not a based on any the event that a happen in a past? Is its predict based on a future cause and effect? How does it create its model base upon what it not the know? And more the important, how can it a quantify what it now even the know will a happen?
As for the climate change, it a possible the phenomenon can do a happen to negate a possible effect of a man the made impact. Catweasel not the know what it the can be. But butterfly flap its wing, who the know?
Good the gawd. So mouzealot's predict is not a based on any the event that a happen in a past?
Most predictions are based at least partially on events of the past, but this discussion isn't about future predictions.
This discussion is about the impact humans have on climate change - i.e. the measured historical impact.
The potential future contribution of humans to climate change is another matter entirely. If somebody comes along and says humans will contribute to 98.6% of climate change in 2015, I'd say that's interesting, but it's not really worth discussing any more than my prediction for $1M 2015 Sydney house prices. It's just a prediction... one person's opinion, and pretty much irrelevant to what is actually happening.
But at least with the house price prediction, we'll have an answer by the end of 2015. We'll know whether the prediction was right or wrong. With the climate change prediction, we still won't know in 2015 how much is caused by humans, and I'll still be very skeptical of people like The Count who claim it's all caused by humans.
Most predictions are based at least partially on events of the past, but this discussion isn't about future predictions.
This discussion is about the impact humans have on climate change - i.e. the measured historical impact.
The potential future contribution of humans to climate change is another matter entirely. If somebody comes along and says humans will contribute to 98.6% of climate change in 2015, I'd say that's interesting, but it's not really worth discussing any more than my prediction for $1M 2015 Sydney house prices. It's just a prediction... one person's opinion, and pretty much irrelevant to what is actually happening.
But at least with the house price prediction, we'll have an answer by the end of 2015. We'll know whether the prediction was right or wrong. With the climate change prediction, we still won't know in 2015 how much is caused by humans, and I'll still be very skeptical of people like The Count who claim it's all caused by humans.
Predict also about quantify a impacts base upon a modeling, be it mouse house or a climate. Understand of a science very a relevant. Not matter whether it mouzealots or Steve the keen.
It the very fine to guess a future base on what it a read and a believe, but to call it a predict is to bastardize a science and pollute forecast. Even it's gurus would a tacitly accept, except of the course charismatic white shoe.
Catweasel say it the interesting that mouzealot place the emphasis on quantify impact for a natural world, but a completely ignore for world of mouse house price.
So getting back to your comment that initiated this trollathon... I assume you now agree that your original claim is untrue.
Verb: Say or estimate that (a specified thing) will happen in the future or will be a consequence of something.
Synonyms: foretell - prophesy - prognosticate - forecast - presage So getting back to your comment that initiated this trollathon... I assume you now agree that your original claim is untrue.
Fair the enough. Mouzealots predict does not a require any the model. All it the require is the "consequence". How does mouzealots prove its consequence? That difference between a science and a mouzealots.
Do you believe all these things that caused climate change in the past no longer play a part, and it's all caused by humans now?
Yes Dickwad, it's 99% been caused by human activity. It's brain dead simple science.
The only thing occurring prior to industrialization was a very slow global cooling that would've taken 8 or 10 thousand years to develop into an ice age. Humanity activity releases 30 Gigatonns of CO2 from carbonsinks every year. That is 99% of the CO2 released from carbonsinks every year . That's equal to 1% of the CO2 in the atmosphere.
I've been into Astronomy since I was a kid. The below is nothing new. In the 18th century they worked form Newtonian physics the Earth was much warmer than it should be. That sent them on the quest for why was it so.
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The existence of the greenhouse effect was argued for by Joseph Fourier in 1824. The argument and the evidence was further strengthened by Claude Pouillet in 1827 and 1838, and reasoned from experimental observations by John Tyndall in 1859, and more fully quantified by Svante Arrhenius in 1896.[5][6]
If an ideal thermally conductive blackbody was the same distance from the Sun as the Earth is, it would have a temperature of about 5.3 °C. However, since the Earth reflects about 30%[7] [8] of the incoming sunlight, the planet's effective temperature (the temperature of a blackbody that would emit the same amount of radiation) is about −18 °C,[9][10] about 33°C below the actual surface temperature of about 14 °C.[11] The mechanism that produces this difference between the actual surface temperature and the effective temperature is due to the atmosphere and is known as the greenhouse effect.[12]
Earth’s natural greenhouse effect makes life as we know it possible. However, human activities, primarily the burning of fossil fuels and clearing of forests, have intensified the natural greenhouse effect, causing global warming.[13]
This is all simple 19th century Science based on simple Newtonian physics.
Arrhenius is pretty spot on a century later.
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On the other hand, any doubling of the percentage of carbon dioxide in the air would raise the temperature of the earth's surface by 4°
And so far CO2 at 560 pp seems on course for 4C temperature increase from preindustrial levels.
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