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Shadow
16 Oct 2012, 04:28 PM
An ice age would be pretty detrimental too, but we would adapt, evolve and survive, in the same way we will adapt, evolve and survive in a warmer planet.

We can't prevent the climate from changing. It's better to adapt to the inevitable changes, rather than engage in futile efforts to prevent change.


What do you believe caused the climate to change prior to human activity, and why do you believe that thing has stopped causing change now?

No it's not.
So does mouzealots claim to quantify impacts or even question how it the quantify impacts on mouse house price?

But it not cling to its claim of quantify impact of man-made CO2?

It not to be ashamed of. In ideal world, mouzealots would be able to a understand all impacts on artificial and natural the worlds. In some the ways, more similar than first appear. But that because much the unknown.
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Catweasel
16 Oct 2012, 04:50 PM
So does mouzealots claim to quantify impacts or even question how it the quantify impacts on mouse house price?

But it not cling to its claim of quantify impact of man-made CO2?
I haven't claimed to quantify the impact of CO2, and I'm unsure why you link this to house prices. Not really sure what you're saying at all, actually.
Edited by Shadow, 16 Oct 2012, 05:30 PM.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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16 Oct 2012, 05:29 PM
I haven't claimed to quantify the impact of CO2, and I'm unsure why you link this to house prices. Not really sure what you're saying at all, actually.
Catweasel laugh. It a not challenge accuracy of mouzealot's beliefs. It more the interest in its behavior.

And a climate change and mouse house illustrate it the perfect.

For the example, mouzealot can make claim about impact of man the made CO2. Of course it cannot the quantify, but it make vague refer to impact. It the fair point. It ask question of impact on variable. It show rudimentary of scientific understand.

When it look at its main topic of mouzealotry, mouse house, it never state quantify of impact of variable. Yet it bait its sparring partner; question its anti-hero; and idolize its gurus.

So why the so different perceive? If it can be the climate change skeptic and ask itself for prove/disprove, why it not apply to world of mouse house price?

That is why Catweasel say the interesting that mouzealot can view a natural world from rudimentary scientific perceive, but cannot the apply that to world of asset the price. It all base upon something it not really the understand but more what it believe or the trust.

Is it a strange behavior? Catweasel say the not at all. It a behavior seen in much of world. How the ever, it the achilles heel of mouse and yet most a fail to appreciate.

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16 Oct 2012, 04:28 PM
An ice age would be pretty detrimental too, but we would adapt, evolve and survive, in the same way we will adapt, evolve and survive in a warmer planet.


I'm sorry, but how does humanity adapt to deliberately destroying its environment and itself? 99.99% of species don't adapt to environmental challenges, they become extinct instead.

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We can't prevent the climate from changing. It's better to adapt to the inevitable changes, rather than engage in futile efforts to prevent change.


We can prevent the climate changing now because we are the thing that is causing it.

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What do you believe caused the climate to change prior to human activity, and why do you believe that thing has stopped causing change now?


If you mean why was the earth hotter in the time of the dinosaurs? That was because of higher amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere, over time much of that has been absorbed into rocks like limestone. As for the Ice Ages, they are a product of a long term cyclic change in the Earth's orbit around the Sun.
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16 Oct 2012, 05:48 PM
When it look at its main topic of mouzealotry, mouse house, it never state quantify of impact of variable.
Can you give me a few examples of the quantifiable variables that you have in mind here?
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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16 Oct 2012, 07:07 PM
Can you give me a few examples of the quantifiable variables that you have in mind here?
Catweasel laugh. It can choose from plethora. Most a recent is a low the interest a rate. How does it quantify its impact and its proof? Of the course, it a far too the complicate. Or how the about global credit the boom? It the so wrapped into livelihood, surely it can be a quantified, particularly from historical the basis.
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Count du Monet
16 Oct 2012, 06:24 PM
I'm sorry, but how does humanity adapt to deliberately destroying its environment and itself? 99.99% of species don't adapt to environmental challenges, they become extinct instead.
Humans inhabit Dallol, Ethiopia, with an average annual maximum temperature of 40°C.

Humans also inhabit Oymyakon, Russia, with an average annual temperature of -20°C.

So humans can and do adapt to life in a broad range of climates.

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We can prevent the climate changing now because we are the thing that is causing it.
How do you know?

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If you mean why was the earth hotter in the time of the dinosaurs? That was because of higher amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere, over time much of that has been absorbed into rocks like limestone. As for the Ice Ages, they are a product of a long term cyclic change in the Earth's orbit around the Sun.
There have been lots of ice ages and lots of warm periods. Are you saying CO2 can no longer be absorbed? Are you saying Milankovitch Cycles have disappeared?

How about solar output variations? Water vapour? Volcanic eruptions? Ocean currents?

Do you believe all these things that caused climate change in the past no longer play a part, and it's all caused by humans now?
Edited by Shadow, 16 Oct 2012, 07:32 PM.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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16 Oct 2012, 04:03 PM
Prior to modern industrialism the earth was slowly heading to another ice age (slowly cooling).
Yay for industrialism then. I'll take the warmer weather over the ice age any day!
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Catweasel
16 Oct 2012, 07:19 PM
It can choose from plethora. Most a recent is a low the interest a rate. How does it quantify its impact and its proof? Of the course, it a far too the complicate. Or how the about global credit the boom? It the so wrapped into livelihood, surely it can be a quantified, particularly from historical the basis.
'Surely it can be a quantified'? What makes you so certain... have you ever seen the impact of those things quantified?

I don't believe the impact of those things are any more quantifiable than the impact of humans on climate change.

I'd be interested to hear why you disagree with me.
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1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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