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The Climate Change Thread; New data shows global warming ended 16 years ago
Topic Started: 9 Nov 2011, 11:30 PM (35,221 Views)
SuperEgo
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BOM are now predictong a weak Lanina

2 months ago they where predicting an Elnino,

Last year they Predicted a Elnino

And a Strong Lanina formed,

they also changed their prognosis very late

only a few weather experts dare to challenge the Big Oil?Banker led propaganda

who for years spewed anti global warming sciene

only to swictch sides in a matter of months and usher in a CABON SCAM

they left weatherzone moderators and site owners looking like completer and utter fools

they had been agreeing with the inital propaganda and sunspot theories by leadind uni/bom scientists

only to get absolutely side swiped by the government/Bigoil/Banker porpaganda backflip

Those few weather experts that had continually challenged the norm for many years ( 1 is in NASA )

ended up predicting the Yasi Lanina led event with such accuray its was astounding

We get to Now

Reports are coming in of signatures matching last year but stronger and closer to the Australian continent
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SuperEgo
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these are loops alot of people are watching

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/sohemi/sohemiloops/shwvgms.html

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/sohemi/sohemiloops/shwvgmsw.html

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I always thought el nino was a statis event - every nine years or so?
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There is NO Anthropogenic global warming
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10 Nov 2011, 08:39 AM
There is NO Anthropogenic global warming
97% of climate scientists would disagree with that statement, unless you think they are all in on some world wide conspiracy.
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yogi-bear
10 Nov 2011, 10:25 AM
earthsta
10 Nov 2011, 08:39 AM
There is NO Anthropogenic global warming
97% of climate scientists would disagree with that statement, unless you think they are all in on some world wide conspiracy.
I would disagree with both of you.

Anthropogenic global warming is possible but not proven (either way), and it’s not true that 97% of climate scientists agree about anthropogenic global warming. Not even 97% scientists agree that there is global warming caused by anything.
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Inaction = missing opportunities.
Missing opportunities = losing.
Too much thinking = inaction.
Thinking = missing opportunities.
Therefore thinking = losing.

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10 Nov 2011, 12:34 PM
I would disagree with both of you.

Anthropogenic global warming is possible but not proven (either way), and it’s not true that 97% of climate scientists agree about anthropogenic global warming. Not even 97% scientists agree that there is global warming caused by anything.
Don't believe the hype. Climate change is real, and human activity is causing it. The science that links human activity to climate change is a strong as the science that links smoking to lung cancer.

There is a wave of scepticism that has grown over recent years, and many intelligent people have been suckered in.

I recommend the book Merchants of Doubt by Naomi Oreskes and Erik M. Conway. If you want to be sceptical, be sceptical of those that disagree with the overwhelming scientific consensus.

Synopsis from Amazon;

The U.S. scientific community has long led the world in research on such areas as public health, environmental science, and issues affecting quality of life. Our scientists have produced landmark studies on the dangers of DDT, tobacco smoke, acid rain, and global warming. But at the same time, a small yet potent subset of this community leads the world in vehement denial of these dangers.
Merchants of Doubt tells the story of how a loose-knit group of high-level scientists and scientific advisers, with deep connections in politics and industry, ran effective campaigns to mislead the public and deny well-established scientific knowledge over four decades. Remarkably, the same individuals surface repeatedly—some of the same figures who have claimed that the science of global warming is "not settled" denied the truth of studies linking smoking to lung cancer, coal smoke to acid rain, and CFCs to the ozone hole. "Doubt is our product," wrote one tobacco executive. These "experts" supplied it.
Naomi Oreskes and Erik M. Conway, historians of science, roll back the rug on this dark corner of the American scientific community, showing how ideology and corporate interests, aided by a too-compliant media, have skewed public understanding of some of the most pressing issues of our era.


That book; http://www.amazon.com/Merchants-Doubt-Handful-Scientists-Obscured/dp/1596916109

I also recommend the Hamster Wheel interview with Lord Monckton; see link below;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w833cAs9EN0

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Ben D
10 Nov 2011, 12:57 PM
Don't believe the hype. Climate change is real, and human activity is causing it.
What caused it before humans were around?

Why has that thing stopped causing it now?
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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10 Nov 2011, 12:59 PM
What caused it before humans were around?

Why has that thing stopped causing it now?
If you are looking to a stranger on an online forum for this information it is clear why you would be a sceptic.

I would recommend looking looking into some of the work by the overwhelming majority of the world's climate scientists. I am sure their research, evidence and conclusions are more reliable than randoms on the internet.
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Ben D
10 Nov 2011, 01:26 PM
If you are looking to a stranger on an online forum for this information it is clear why you would be a sceptic.

I would recommend looking looking into some of the work by the overwhelming majority of the world's climate scientists. I am sure their research, evidence and conclusions are more reliable than randoms on the internet.
So you can't answer the question then? That's more or less what I expected.

That's the usual response when I ask people like you that question. They go quiet.

The climate has been changing for a very long time. Long before humans were around.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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