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Property industry groups to counter negative sentiment on websites?; Bernard Salt: Straightening out BANANAS (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody)
Topic Started: 28 Aug 2011, 09:28 PM (5,063 Views)
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Bernard Salt argues that B.A.N.A.N.A.S (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody) reflects current public sentiment toward development.

In his presentation at Congress 2011, Salt argues that to change sentiment there needs to be a strategic and unified approach toward publishing the positives that stem from development.

Dr Rob Lang, general manager of the Parramatta City Council, and Guy Gibson, general manager of Queensland Communities at Lend Lease, join Salt with their views.
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This is very disturbing.

KPMG's Bernard Salt is advocating the creation of groups of paid shills and spruikers, backed by big business and the property industry, to 'counter the negativity' by posting on opinion pages of newspapers, forums, social media, twitter and the blogosphere. He wants these groups to take on the 'doomsayers' by seeking out and 'balancing extreme views'. He says individuals can't do it but there are ways to fund groups to do it.

His guests say the property council used to do this a lot to promote the property industry but vacated that space in recent years and he recommends they return with broad campaigns at the PR level to fight negative sentiment in the property market.

It makes you wonder whether they've already been successful in doing this, and the bulls and spruikers on forums like this one are bankrolled by the real estate industry and big business to sow seeds of uncertainty and doubt among the dominant (and correct IMO) bearish viewpoint. Would it surprise you if our one-eyed permabulls and their socks are puppets of the propaganda arm of the real estate industry, here to manipulate public opinion and drown out reality? Who to trust?
Edited by Alright Jack, 29 Aug 2011, 09:40 AM.
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It shouldnt be any surprise, frank and shadow slipped up on credit crunch last year and revealed theyre the same person , what other motive is there for such bullishness in the face of reality , they have to be paid shills its the only explanation makes any sense !
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Mahamed
29 Aug 2011, 10:11 AM
It shouldnt be any surprise, frank and shadow slipped up on credit crunch last year and revealed theyre the same person , what other motive is there for such bullishness in the face of reality , they have to be paid shills its the only explanation makes any sense !
Really? A Frank the Castle and a Shadow is a same one? Frankie is the favorite of a Catweasel.
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Mahamed
29 Aug 2011, 10:11 AM
It shouldnt be any surprise, frank and shadow slipped up on credit crunch last year and revealed theyre the same person , what other motive is there for such bullishness in the face of reality , they have to be paid shills its the only explanation makes any sense !
Are you sure? They post very differently? Frank is very brash and confrontational. Shadow is relentless in his persistence, and will not allow even the smallest disagreement to go by without arguing the toss.
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29 Aug 2011, 10:54 AM
Are you sure? They post very differently? Frank is very brash and confrontational. Shadow is relentless in his persistence, and will not allow even the smallest disagreement to go by without arguing the toss.
Sadly, it's true. I expect Strindberg is the same. Here's the Credit Crunch thread where they slipped up.

http://www.creditcrunch.co.uk/forum/topic/2990-making-money-from-the-impending-aust-housing-crash/page__st__60

They tried to play it down and make a joke of it, but it was obvious what had just happened.
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29 Aug 2011, 10:55 AM
Sadly, it's true. I expect Strindberg is the same. Here's the Credit Crunch thread where they slipped up.

http://www.creditcrunch.co.uk/forum/topic/2990-making-money-from-the-impending-aust-housing-crash/page__st__60

They tried to play it down and make a joke of it, but it was obvious what had just happened.
Your link takes me to Prosper Australia site.... ewwwww.

PS: I am very dubious re this claim!

PPS: Found the thread over there now and notice that I am supposedly a Shadow sock puppet as well!! That is so funny!
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29 Aug 2011, 12:29 PM
Your link takes you to Prosper Australia site.... ewwwww.
Earthsta reported a similar problem recently, Credit Crunch links redirecting to Prosper. Are others experiencing this? The link goes to Credit Crunch for me.
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29 Aug 2011, 10:55 AM
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29 Aug 2011, 10:54 AM
Are you sure? They post very differently? Frank is very brash and confrontational. Shadow is relentless in his persistence, and will not allow even the smallest disagreement to go by without arguing the toss.
Sadly, it's true. I expect Strindberg is the same. Here's the Credit Crunch thread where they slipped up.

http://www.creditcrunch.co.uk/forum/topic/2990-making-money-from-the-impending-aust-housing-crash/page__st__60

They tried to play it down and make a joke of it, but it was obvious what had just happened.
Shadow and Strindberg are one and same.......Shadow slipped up with a reply post of mine.
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Check out Notfooled's posts.
Classic PR spruik.

Apologies to Notfooled if you're not a vested interest. Have you ever thought about PR ? You're very good at it.
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29 Aug 2011, 12:42 PM
Earthsta reported a similar problem recently, Credit Crunch links redirecting to Prosper. Are others experiencing this? The link goes to Credit Crunch for me.
Redirected to Prosper as well.
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29 Aug 2011, 12:42 PM
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29 Aug 2011, 12:29 PM
Your link takes you to Prosper Australia site.... ewwwww.
Earthsta reported a similar problem recently, Credit Crunch links redirecting to Prosper. Are others experiencing this? The link goes to Credit Crunch for me.
It's done it again for me, from a different computer with a different IP address.

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29 Aug 2011, 01:16 PM
Redirected to Prosper as well.
Would you all try copying the link to a separate browser tab. I'd like to know if they're redirecting based on links from this forum, IP address, or a combination of both. There's a subforum under the Credit Crunch Australia forum called "http://www.prosper.org.au Redirected Hits: 359" meaning its something they've configured to direct certain incoming links elsewhere.
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29 Aug 2011, 01:48 PM
Would you all try copying the link to a separate browser tab. I'd like to know if they're redirecting based on links from this forum, IP address, or a combination of both. There's a subforum under the Credit Crunch Australia forum called "http://www.prosper.org.au Redirected Hits: 359" meaning its something they've configured to direct certain incoming links elsewhere.
Hmm if I cut and paste the link into a new tab or browser then I go to CC. If I click on the link in the post I still get the other site!
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29 Aug 2011, 01:52 PM
Hmm if I cut and paste the link into a new tab or browser then I go to CC. If I click on the link in the post I still get the other site!
Those experiencing the issue on this thread are using non-dynamic IP addresses. Does Credit Crunch redirect certain "blacklisted" IP addresses when the incoming link is from APF?
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