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Craig Thomson and Peter Slipper: Scandals to destroy Gillard and Labor; Peter Slipper steps down as Speaker amid sexual harassment and fraud allegations
Topic Started: 25 Aug 2011, 12:06 PM (1,762 Views)
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Crimes of a fool set to finish off Gillard

August 25, 2011

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Crimes have been committed that can bring down the Gillard government, and they are dumb crimes. As a former NSW chief of detectives told me: ''We are ultimately dealing with the crimes of a fool, whomever that fool may be, who has left a documented trail like a bleeding elephant in a snowfield.''

This trail of evidence of fraud, lying and cover-up now roils around the federal Labor MP Craig Thomson. It has also engulfed the NSW Police Force, which implausibly refused to act until a victim had filed a complaint.

''Utter garbage,'' said the former detective. ''Police do not need to have a complaint from a victim in order to investigate a crime.''

Even more damning, the victim in this case, the Health Services Union, clearly had no interest in bringing a complaint because the moment this became a criminal matter it would become a time bomb ticking beneath the Gillard government.

It began to tick on Tuesday afternoon when police issued a statement saying that material submitted by the federal shadow attorney-general, Senator George Brandis, would be assessed to see whether a crime had been committed. If the police cannot find a crime here, then it is the police who will need to be assessed.

As for the reluctant Health Services Union, it would have had its own case to answer, had it not announced yesterday it would be co-operating with police. Section 316 (1) of the NSW Crimes Act makes it an offence to conceal knowledge of a serious indictable offence: ''If a person has committed a serious indictable offence and another person who knows or believes that the offence has been committed … fails without reasonable excuse to bring that information to the [police] … that other person is liable to imprisonment for two years.''

''It is difficult to understand why it took [the police] so long to act,'' said the former detective. ''I believe a union member went into a central coast police station attempting to make a complaint but was turned away … We are not talking about a complicated case. Given resources, this brief would represent two to three weeks' work before somebody could be charged.''

Tick, tick, tick.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/crimes-of-a-fool-set-to-finish-off-gillard-20110824-1ja53.html#ixzz1Vzxaq9Kl
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Gillard is rubbish, but look who the alternative is!

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The day Abbott bared his soul

Misha Schubert
August 28, 2011

No price on Tony Abbott's arse ... yet.

"The only thing I wouldn't do is sell my arse - but I'd have to give serious thought to it" ... Abbott. Photo: Andrew Meares

THE way Tony Windsor recalls it, Tony Abbott begged crossbench MPs to make him prime minister, joking ''the only thing I wouldn't do is sell my arse - but I'd have to give serious thought to it''.

In interviews to mark the anniversary of their decision to back Julia Gillard to run the country, independent MPs have revealed startling new details of their reservations about the Opposition Leader, including that joking plea.

And Bob Katter - one of the crossbenchers who backed Mr Abbott - is now deeply disenchanted, accusing the Liberal leader of welching on a deal to put up laws mandating ethanol in petrol.

Mr Katter says the Coalition's failure to put up the laws before the Greens took control of the Senate fills him ''with a deep sense of disquiet'' over whether Mr Abbott can be relied on. ''If you weren't going to keep your agreement, you must bear the consequences of having a question mark over you and your undertakings,'' he said.

Mr Windsor recalls feeling alarm and pity when Mr Abbott revealed the depth of his personal desire to become prime minister.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-day-abbott-bared-his-soul-20110827-1jfgv.html#ixzz1WIOZI1gI

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All I am interested in, is a political party that stops spending borrowed money that my kids have to pay back
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They said that about NSW Labor for years and I think they got at least another 2 terms
out of it after their government were broadly declared the worst government ever.

Nobody likes or trusts the silvertails.

I think the carbon tax is retarded but at least it will put downward pressure on house prices. :excited:

The election is a long time away and those ads can be very effective.
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Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments.
Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck!
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Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
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hate the red ranga but mister hillsong huffy mcguffy not the best either...... oh my sore head and empty wallet........ :( :(
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News keeps getting worse for our incompetent leaders........

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Humiliation as things get worse

September 1, 2011

IT is hard to imagine how things could possibly get worse for this government.

Battered over the Craig Thomson affair, its primary vote mired below 30 per cent, and selling a carbon tax as popular as an infestation of carp, the High Court, out of left field, kills its Malaysia solution by six votes to one.

This decision was not expected. Even the opposition spokesman for immigration, Scott Morrison, didn't think the court would intervene so heavily and so he started spinning a face-saving response before the judgment was handed down.

The decision is not just an embarrassment, it fuels the reputation for incompetence the government is trying to shed in its year of decision and delivery. That reputation is for announcing things before they are set in stone, only to have them unravel.

It leaves the government with two options: abandon all hope of offshore processing and revert to allowing asylum seekers on to the mainland for processing.

Or, re-embrace in full the Howard government's Pacific Solution by reopening Nauru as well as Manus Island and reintroducing temporary protection visas. The latter is the only way to defuse the situation politically.

By backing down and apeing Coalition policy, the government will be humiliated further in the short term.

But as boats continue to arrive, it will be harder for the Coalition to make political mileage, given it supports the same policy.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/humiliation-as-things-get-worse-20110831-1jm5j.html#ixzz1WeZwibvc
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Ten months and Labor's gone: Richardson

Megan Levy
September 1, 2011 - 11:01AM

Former Labor powerbroker Graham Richardson has delivered a damning assessment of the federal government's performance, predicting that Labor would lead the country for less than another year under Julia Gillard's stewardship.

The former cabinet minister said the latest debacle surrounding the off-shore processing of asylum seekers proved the government was in a "terrible mess" from which it was impossible for the Prime Minister to recover.

"It does require some leadership to get out of it and that's the one thing that Julia Gillard has not provided in the last 12 months," Mr Richardson told radio 3AW, adding that it was "too late" for Ms Gillard.

"There's no way she can turn this around. You've got to say it gets worse for her every single day. It never gets better, it just gets worse."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/ten-months-and-labors-gone-richardson-20110901-1jmyr.html#ixzz1WfJ3YIs5
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its over even the credit cards are starting to bounce for the prosti's

they are BROKE they have negatively geared themselves and us to bankruptcy

doing it hand in hand with the complete RBA board of monkeys led by glen stevens
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Goneski! Return of the Rudd?

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Rudd back in frame as Labor flounders

Phillip Coorey
September 3, 2011

A DEFIANT Julia Gillard has warned her colleagues they would have to blast her out, saying she was the best person to lead the government to the next election, despite swirling speculation of a leadership change and even a return to Kevin Rudd.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/rudd-back-in-frame-as-labor-flounders-20110902-1jq8p.html#ixzz1Wpsa9Q7r

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How long can it last?

Lenore Taylor
September 3, 2011

Just over a year ago, Kevin Rudd's leadership hit a tipping point, his support base inside the party was swamped by the momentum of backroom leadership destabilisation and Australia woke one morning to hear it was about to get a new prime minister.

Labor is now facing the possibility Julia Gillard's leadership could suffer the same fate, this time undermined more by despair at the government's own weakness, bad luck and mistakes.

The dissenters know that the deals with the cross-bench independents mean the prime ministership is now not only in the hands of the caucus and so-called ''faceless men''. And the small band who see the best chance of survival in the resurrection of Kevin Rudd know that actively pushing the former leader could hinder his chances.

''She must be given every opportunity,'' they say.

Their wait-and-see strategy is to allow the carbon tax and the mining tax to pass the parliament and then assess what is possible if the party's political situation is still as dire early next year.

Many of the powerbrokers who would need to support any change were behind last year's coup in favour of Gillard and have a lot riding on its success. She remains much more popular in the party. But, as Kevin Rudd discovered, these things can take on a life of their own, and this week's shock High Court decision on the Malaysian asylum seekers deal shows how quickly a weakened leader can face destabilisation.

The former leader, still recuperating at his Canberra home from heart surgery, has been keeping out of it.

Party sources insist there is no organised or even disorganised challenge and they cite many rational reasons against another leadership change.

But every time a prime minister has to publicly declare ''I'm not going anywhere'', as Julia Gillard did on Friday in response to reports she had been asked to stand down, it underlines that their position is weak.

Labor was at first so shell-shocked by the High Court disaster, so stunned by the king-hit to its already pummelled credibility, they couldn't even spin it. The masters of spin were spun out.

Senior figures who have for weeks been stoically reciting that they were ''working through the issues'' and ''rebuilding the electorate's trust through delivery'' and ''seeing through the tough times'' couldn't find a slogan

to explain away the debris of their policy or the state of the government. Most of what they did say can't be printed, but the recurring theme was disbelief that everything they touched turned to ''shit''.

Having persevered through the political misery of carbon pricing, the unedifying rout of the mining tax, the humiliation of the Timor ''solution'' and the revival of the sordid Craig Thomson allegations, they just couldn't pretend any more that they had any confidence things could turn out all right.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/how-long-can-it-last-20110902-1jq7c.html#ixzz1WprY4fna
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Gillard and Labor losing their head and their nerve

September 4, 2011

IT'S almost unimaginable that Labor could trash two leaders in less than four years, both of them prime ministers. Or, perhaps more to the point, that these leaders could have trashed themselves. How could the ALP win office in 2007 with a comfortable majority, then by 2011 be on a primary vote of less than 30 per cent? Some feat.

Julia Gillard is still PM, of course. But, unless you believe in miracles, she's a dead woman walking, to be dispatched by the people at the election or perhaps by her party before.

The current destabilisation is predictable (the party is staring at a wipe-out on the present polls) but bizarre in that there is no obvious replacement for Gillard. Well, there is one, of course - Kevin Rudd - but that's the one the caucus doesn't want. As for the rest - Stephen Smith, Bill Shorten, Simon Crean, Greg Combet - take your pick. Maybe someone has a hat for a draw. Or Bob Brown could join Labor and really take over. Or what about Malcolm Turnbull? He's pretty popular with ALP voters. (Just joking, really!)

Labor is in a dreadful state. Caucus is confused, frightened, demoralised. It's starting to fight over asylum-seeker policy and what should be done about manufacturing. Then there's the Craig Thomson affair. Bomb throwers are everywhere; some inside Labor, a lot in sections of the media. Last week the latter revived old allegations against an ex-boyfriend of Gillard's, then complained that she hit back to win an apology from The Australian over an inaccurate claim about her.

Former Labor minister Graham Richardson, a media player who still fancies himself as a power broker, declared there was ''no way'' Gillard could turn the situation around. He predicted her government would fall next year, brought down by independent Andrew Wilkie over poker machines.

The High Court's demolition of the Malaysia deal raised the discontent to fever pitch because Labor had put so much faith in this morally dubious policy. Far from the Malaysia agreement digging the government out of a hole, the High Court pushed it further into the ground. It added to the impression that everything the government touches turns into disaster; reacting, Gillard sounded off-key in her attacks on the court and then got a backhander from the nation's judges.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/gillard-and-labor-losing-their-head-and-their-nerve-20110903-1jr4r.html
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