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Chronic Australian Housing Shortage is a Myth - Analyst Pointing to an Oversupply; Ryder and Matusik
Topic Started: 7 Jul 2011, 05:04 PM (5,646 Views)
raveswei
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finally somebody is checking data that was clearly (purposely) wrong

it is amazing how much people (mostly bulls) trust everything they read


anyway

2 million homes will be available from old people in next 20 years and 1.5 million (at most and likely 1.2m) will be needed by new generations

sounds like a shortage?
http://popping-bubble.blogspot.com/

Thinking of an Australian property speculator (PI):
Inaction = missing opportunities.
Missing opportunities = losing.
Too much thinking = inaction.
Thinking = missing opportunities.
Therefore thinking = losing.

disgraceful little man Frank Castle owes a house to Salvation Army

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raveswei
9 Jul 2011, 01:46 PM
finally somebody is checking data that was clearly (purposely) wrong

it is amazing how much people (mostly bulls) trust everything they read


anyway

2 million homes will be available from old people in next 20 years and 1.5 million (at most and likely 1.2m) will be needed by new generations

sounds like a shortage?
Yes, I am often amazed at how a bull will provide the 'correct' data and that data only goes to prove a bear argument. Weird....

What will happen to the shortage as we approach our peak population and then its decline?
What will happen when our deaths rates double in the next 25 years and our natural growth drops to approach zero?
If CO2 is man linked, what will happen to CO2 emmissions as global population peaks and then declines?

Really once we have peak global population and then decline, most problems that we face now seem to go away. Climate change, food, energy and water.

Finally, the kids will be looking out the front window. I can not wait.... The true green economy of 2050 on...
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9 Jul 2011, 01:59 PM
Yes, I am often amazed at how a bull will provide the 'correct' data and that data only goes to prove a bear argument. Weird....
what bizarre world do you live in?
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raveswei
9 Jul 2011, 01:46 PM
finally somebody is checking data that was clearly (purposely) wrong

it is amazing how much people (mostly bulls) trust everything they read


anyway

2 million homes will be available from old people in next 20 years and 1.5 million (at most and likely 1.2m) will be needed by new generations

sounds like a shortage?
So, having been exposed yet again as a maker up of shit, you are saying you "purposely" made up shit when you wrote:

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there are 3 million old 65+ households in Australia


You now say its 2 million, not 3 million.

You are simply a lying bastard with fuck-all integrity. But I can see why you do it. There are suckers here who you know will believe you as long as what you say fits their beloved crash scenario.

Yourself and and the other maker of shit, pauk, can feed your audience of suckers all day long knowing they'll never challenge you. If someone does challenge you can always say, like you have this time, that you deliberately lied and expect to get a pat on the back.

You are a slimy, distasteful, dishonest bastard.



Edited by Strindberg, 9 Jul 2011, 02:21 PM.
Housing costs to Income broadly unchanged since 1994 - re-ratified here
The People of Australia have the highest median wealth in the World
2002-2012 10 year house price growth the SLOWEST since 1952-1962
"There are two kinds of people in this world: ones that fiddle around wondering whether a thing's right or wrong and guys like us." (Hugo to Gagin in Ride the Pink Horse)
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zaph
9 Jul 2011, 02:14 PM
what bizarre world do you live in?
Lol....paukville.....
It was like shadow debating me on population growth and then him doing a chart that actually proved my point.
Now he thinks June will be 1.3%, not the release due in or around June, the actual June yoy result.
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raveswei
9 Jul 2011, 01:46 PM
finally somebody is checking data that was clearly (purposely) wrong

it is amazing how much people (mostly bulls) trust everything they read
I stopped believing your figures when you claimed "over 85% of all construction in Australia were for residential properties" - I wonder if anyone here still believes them
I put trolls and time wasters on my ignore list so if I don't respond to you, you are probably on it ....
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pauk
9 Jul 2011, 02:57 PM
It was like shadow debating me on population growth and then him doing a chart that actually proved my point.
Now he thinks June will be 1.3%, not the release due in or around June, the actual June yoy result.
My chart did not prove your point, and my prediction for June is not 1.3%.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Shadow
9 Jul 2011, 03:25 PM
My chart did not prove your point, and my prediction for June is not 1.3%.
Mmmmm. I though you stated that the year to June figures, due later in the year would be 1.3% and I said 1.1%.
Please correct me with the right numbers?
Your chart, which you will not update because it clearly shows better data than the abs, even with the adjustments, does not prove you bias, so you elected to then explain why the data was dodgy....
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pauk
9 Jul 2011, 03:46 PM
Your chart, which you will not update because it clearly shows better data than the abs, even with the adjustments, does not prove you bias, so you elected to then explain why the data was dodgy....
The chart doesn't prove or disprove anything, and the data isn't dodgy - it simply shows intended movements in and out of Australia, as stated by travelers on their boarding cards.

Bias is irrelevant.

My population growth prediction is in the predictions thread.
Edited by Shadow, 9 Jul 2011, 03:52 PM.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Shadow
9 Jul 2011, 03:50 PM
The chart doesn't prove or disprove anything, and the data isn't dodgy - it simply shows intended movements in and out of Australia, as stated by travelers on their boarding cards.

Bias is irrelevant.

My population growth prediction is in the predictions thread.
My bad, you said 1.35% for the June numbers, released in Decmmber.....
http://australianpropertyforum.com/single/?p=8176692&t=8246183

I did ask exactly..
And your prediction for June 2011 population growth percentage?

Not the June release. Yoiu twisted that.

So 1.35% for the year to June, 2011, by Shadow....
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