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Get Up! End Negative Gearing & Property Buyer / First Home Buyer FHB Strike; 40,000 First Home Buyers On Strike - David Collyer
Topic Started: 16 Mar 2011, 08:59 AM (25,069 Views)
Mahamed
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GetUp also changed the default view from "top" to "hot" so our popular property campaigns no longer showing up by default near the top of the list. This is very suspiscious and more evidence of high level vested interest pressure to bury the property campaigns because they want to bring in more stimulus to stop the bubble popping !
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Mahamed
12 Apr 2011, 06:44 PM
The FHB Strike campaign is "under review' but the campaign "Protecting funding for Medical Research in Australia" suddendly shot well ahead of it on votes and I'm fairly convinced this is a dishonest manipulation of votes by Get Up to get the heat off the FHB strike campaign because they've been pressured by federal govt to bury the campaign asap.

http://suggest.getup.org.au/forums/60819-campaign-ideas/topics/61385-i-suggest-a-campaign-about-/filter/top
Poor bears !!!!!!

Always lose !!!!!!
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Nelson
12 Apr 2011, 06:56 PM
Poor bears !!!!!!

Always lose !!!!!!


lol.. exposed yourself Nelson.


For someone who does not seem to care about the campaign you have been obviously stalking the getup website looking for news...

Got a few IP's eh ? :beer:
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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Mahamed
12 Apr 2011, 06:44 PM
The FHB Strike campaign is "under review' but the campaign "Protecting funding for Medical Research in Australia" suddendly shot well ahead of it on votes and I'm fairly convinced this is a dishonest manipulation of votes by Get Up to get the heat off the FHB strike campaign because they've been pressured by federal govt to bury the campaign asap.

http://suggest.getup.org.au/forums/60819-campaign-ideas/topics/61385-i-suggest-a-campaign-about-/filter/top
Why are you convinced of that? Medical research preservation--whatever the merits of the issue--is a natural for GetUp! Like Mom and apple pie, nobody could really be against it (unlike property issues, which have vested interests on both sides).

And the FHB strike is so 'last week'.

What did you expect? Give it another news cycle or two, and GetUp! will be preoccupied with the Budget, and/or childcare, and/or carbon taxes, and/or sex in the military, and/or the Altiyan Childs situation, and/or whether Tony Abbott was denied ear surgery at birth by cruel parents...
Edited by Sprog, 13 Apr 2011, 12:41 AM.
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The thing is the "left" consist of a high level of hypocritical scum. A lot of them live in the Inner West of Sydney and the last thing they want is their million dollar terrace to be worth $500k. The last thing they want is for all the immigrants they love to be actually living with them. They want them out west way out so that the poor can deal with the downsides.

I wouldn't be too concerned with the getup campaign. They're not going to do anything.

stinkbug omosessuale


Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments.
Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck!
See here
Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
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13 Apr 2011, 08:05 PM
The thing is the "left" consist of a high level of hypocritical scum. A lot of them live in the Inner West of Sydney and the last thing they want is their million dollar terrace to be worth $500k. The last thing they want is for all the immigrants they love to be actually living with them. They want them out west way out so that the poor can deal with the downsides.

I wouldn't be too concerned with the getup campaign. They're not going to do anything.



You are probably correct... however the getup campaign certainly had enough people with vested interest in the prices not falling to have a lot of angry comments both here on the forum and on the getup comments section... the media campaign also made some of those people equally angry.

At the end of the day the bubble can only go so long before it deflates.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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themoops
13 Apr 2011, 08:05 PM
The thing is the "left" consist of a high level of hypocritical scum. A lot of them live in the Inner West of Sydney and the last thing they want is their million dollar terrace to be worth $500k. The last thing they want is for all the immigrants they love to be actually living with them. They want them out west way out so that the poor can deal with the downsides.

I wouldn't be too concerned with the getup campaign. They're not going to do anything.

Yes, David Collyer the Prosper Campaign Manager of Buyer's Strike fame, lives in Kew East. The median house price there is $1.134m.
Housing costs to Income broadly unchanged since 1994 - re-ratified here
The People of Australia have the highest median wealth in the World
2002-2012 10 year house price growth the SLOWEST since 1952-1962
"There are two kinds of people in this world: ones that fiddle around wondering whether a thing's right or wrong and guys like us." (Hugo to Gagin in Ride the Pink Horse)
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Well now, it seems GetUp couldn't care less about public opinion -- http://suggest.getup.org.au/forums/60819-campaign-ideas/suggestions/1595687-first-home-buyers-property-buyers-strike?tracking_code=5fb47894bbddb7b48f1da6353a05abbe

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I’d just like to thank you all for getting involved in this campaign. We were absolutely blown away by the volume of voters and comments in such a small period of time.

While the issue of housing affordability is clearly an issue that resonates with plenty of people, GetUp members don’t support a boycott campaign. Over the course of the last couple of weeks, we surveyed a random segment of our membership to gauge support - only 10% strongly support the campaign, and more than half the surveyed members opposed this campaign altogether. For these reasons, we won’t be running a campaign in support of the property buyers’ boycott.

We know that plenty of people who use this website aren’t GetUp members, and that interest groups will often use this page as a way of publicising their issues. This is fine – this forum is a great place to have everybody’s voices heard and to get involved with issues that are important to you. But ultimately, we’re always going to take this into consideration before taking up a campaign, and we’re only going to run campaigns that represent our members’ interests.

When we decline a campaign, it no longer shows up on the front page of the website - indicating that the campaign suggestion is 'closed' and no longer accepting votes. That doesn't mean that this thread has disappeared - you can still see it here: First Home Buyers - Property Buyers Strike.

This stinks. Mahamed is right -- they've buried the campaign!
Edited by carter, 14 Apr 2011, 07:59 PM.
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right, yeah... heaven forbid they use their heads and consider a more general campaign on housing affordability...

I agree with others there:

transfer votes to:

http://suggest.getup.org.au/forums/60819-campaign-ideas/suggestions/1074743-stopping-the-tax-cuts-for-wealthy-investment-prope?ref=title

if you haven't already...

cutting negative gearing benefits is fairly clear cut... I'd like to see their excuse for not perusing that...
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13 Apr 2011, 09:45 PM
Yes, David Collyer the Prosper Campaign Manager of Buyer's Strike fame, lives in Kew East. The median house price there is $1.134m.
Prosper aren't a bunch of Muslim fellating hippies. They look like old school conservatives to me.
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Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments.
Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck!
See here
Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
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