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Chris Joye - Young Man in a Hurry: Profile; Profile: From 2003
Topic Started: 20 Feb 2011, 06:07 PM (13,100 Views)
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earthsta
19 Oct 2011, 01:23 PM
Egotistical, self opinionated, narcissistic twat
You display so much frustration and misdirected anger Earthsta. I get the impression you're jealous of Joye's success.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Yes Christopher Joye's blog is very strange indeed see http://christopherjoye.blogspot.com/

It is an unusual combination of business related blogging and highly personal information. The blog is a bit weird...

There are posts on
* his child Jesse Joye http://christopherjoye.blogspot.com/2011/12/jesse-joye_13.html
* A strange animated video on 'leaked pre RBA Board meeting' http://christopherjoye.blogspot.com/2011/12/oh-my-god-leaked-pre-rba-board-meeting.html
* a sunrise over the ocean http://christopherjoye.blogspot.com/2011/12/woke-up-to-this-view-this-morning.html
* housing activity recovering http://christopherjoye.blogspot.com/2011/12/housing-activity-was-recovering.html
* a surfing location http://christopherjoye.blogspot.com/2011/12/about-to-hit-these-waves.html
* RBA Boss Glenn Stevens http://christopherjoye.blogspot.com/2011/12/beautiful-little-gem-from-glenn-stevens.html

Chris Joye must have the ability to self reflect, must have insight into his behaviour and must be able to manage his behaviour? Chris Joye has a high public profile and is always attention seeking with his media comments and articles.

Why would you publish a personal photo of your child on your business blog? see Jesse Joye http://christopherjoye.blogspot.com/2011/12/jesse-joye_13.html Does this show impulsivity or immaturity or demonstrate an attempt at exploitation of his child? Would Chris Joye publish family photos on the Rismark website? http://www.rismark.com.au/ I don't think most professionals mix business matters with private family matters in the public arena. This is a bit creepy.

When Jesse Joye grows up she can say Dad would publish photo's of me on the internet, for the whole world to see. I was naked in the photo and I had no choice, because this was just one of Dad's decisions.

What's all this crap in the header of his blog? " Variously described by News Ltd as an "Inflation Hawk", "Iconoclast", "Svengali", a pollie's "Economist Muse", and "Pungently Accurate". According to Fairfax, the author is a "Renaissance man".

Does Christopher Joye have delusions of grandeur? Could this be demonstrating some manic behaviour?

I doubt Christopher Joye could keep quiet for 30 days without publishing some sort of property finance spruking article online? People who cannot control their behaviour might have obsessive compulsive disorder (chronic depression) and they cannot stop their obsession for gaining attention.

Anyone seen a mixed up crazy sad guy recently?

http://australianpropertyforum.com/topic/9337535/1/
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19 Oct 2011, 09:19 PM
earthsta
19 Oct 2011, 01:23 PM
Egotistical, self opinionated, narcissistic twat
You display so much frustration and misdirected anger Earthsta. I get the impression you're jealous of Joye's success.
Success?

The only successful thing that Joye has done is to be born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
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12 Jan 2012, 11:38 AM
Chris Joye named as the top spruiker of 2011, no surprises there then.

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Leading Australian property spuikers for 2011 exposed

December 27, 2011

If you have been spruiking the Australian property market it is time for you to be named. Welcome to our inaugural review of ‘leading Aussie spruikers’. Firstly we should start by providing definitions of the term spruiker or spruiking.

In British English, a tout (spruiker) is any person who solicits business or employment in a persistent and annoying manner (generally equivalent to a solicitor or barker in American English, or a spruiker in Australian English) . According to the American Bar Association, touting occurs when a person advertises, promotes, or otherwise describes a security for sale without disclosing that the person is being paid to do so.

An example would be a person who frequents heavily touristed areas and presents himself as a tour guide (particularly towards those who do not speak the local language) but operates on behalf of local bars, restaurant, or hotels, being paid to direct tourists towards certain establishments. Payments from customers can be direct or indirect.

Does this ring a bell? Have you ever read an article by a self proclaimed independent source or specialist who is constantly talking up the property market. Regardless of whether the market is flat, falling or rising? They just keep on banging away.

Property statistical data may be used as a tool to present information in a certain way. It is interesting to note that real estate data management in Australia is not governed by legislation and there are no licensing requirements. So the data and reports provided by any source can be structured to satisfy the point of view required. As there are no property data regulations and no quality standards in Australia.

Some recent spruiking articles we have exposed suggest that the Adelaide property market is booming and the Brisbane market is predicted to grow by 10% in 2012. Yes believe it or not!

We have decided to let our readers know who are the leading serial property spruikers in Australia and back this up with independent articles. Check out our list below and we have provided links to web searches identifying these spruikers. Click on the link and you will find articles and comments about these spruikers. The web has decided if you are a spruiker. The web has spoken.

We have also provided links to our own analysis and interpretation of spruiker articles and you can find this information in the ‘find spruiking posts’ section below.

Christopher Joy, Executive Director of Rismark International and front man for RP Data has taken the number 1 ranking for 2011. Congratulations Chris for consistently banging away about positive property growth in Australia and how the real estate recovery is just around the corner. Your unsubstantiated, unverified, non audited property reports and pseudo intellectual babble has kept Australia amused and bewildered.

Recently in the face of adversity you stated that “Rismark’s national dwelling price-to-income ratio falling to its lowest level since before 2003. It is little wonder that buyers are returning to the market”. However Switzer stated that figures show that real (inflation adjusted) weekly disposable household income actually fell slightly over the past two years, dropping from $859 a week in 2007/08 to $848 a week in 2009/10.

Chris Joye shame, shame, shame for your constant dribbling. Congratulations for being named the number 1 leading Aussie property spruiker for 2011. Mr Joye does make reference to his commercial financial interests in his personal blog “ please note that I may have an economic interest in any of the items discussed here’

Leading Australian Property Spruikers for 2011

Rank Spruiker Name Employer, title and customers
1 Christopher Joye Rismark International Exec Dir. Other commercial interests in Business Spectator, Property Observer and RP Data. Finance sector, real estate agents, developers, valuers, builders and property industry.
2 Dr Andrew Wilson APM, Economist, Lenders, real estate agents, developers, valuers
3 Michael Yardney Metropole, Property Obsessed, Lenders, real estate agents, developers, valuers,
4 Gavin Hegney Hegney Property Group, Chairman, Finance sector, real estate agents, developers, valuers
5 Cameron Kusher RP Data, Research Analyst, Lenders, real estate agents, developers, valuers

Why not conduct your own research. Go to google and type in a name e.g. Christopher Joye, then click on pages from Australia, then click on either the past week, past month, past year or custom range. e.g. select the boom period 2004 to 2007 and then select a bust period 2010 to 2011.

Christopher Joye has a vested interest in gaining the highest rate of return from the Rismark Equity Finance Mortgages® (“EFMs”). Rismark International and Chris Joye will receive the highest returns if property prices are inflated and housing less affordable. See the Choice article on risky home loans and the RISMARK/ADELAIDE BANK Equity Finance Mortgage (EFM)

There is a distinct ‘conflict of interest’ and Chris Joye will promote house buying and property investment to support his financial and business interests in RP Data, Rismark International and the Rismark Equity Finance Mortgages.

Chris Joye is not an independent impartial property commentator. He is a spruiker.

If you have identified any other property spruikers in the Australian market let us know and we will investigate this.
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earthsta
12 Jan 2012, 08:42 AM
Shadow
19 Oct 2011, 09:19 PM
earthsta
19 Oct 2011, 01:23 PM
Egotistical, self opinionated, narcissistic twat
You display so much frustration and misdirected anger Earthsta. I get the impression you're jealous of Joye's success.
Success?

The only successful thing that Joye has done is to be born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
The guy is obviously smart and driven. It's just a pity he is wasted in figuring out complicated ways to make money without doing anything useful.

Imagine if he was employed in researching a cure for cancer or developing a new energy source?
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20 Feb 2011, 07:31 PM
"Joye plans to transform low-income renters into home owners by reducing the amount of capital required to enter the market."
why not introduce slavery again? - all slaves had place to live, meals as well, and they were working less for the master than what these homeowners work for banks
http://popping-bubble.blogspot.com/

Thinking of an Australian property speculator (PI):
Inaction = missing opportunities.
Missing opportunities = losing.
Too much thinking = inaction.
Thinking = missing opportunities.
Therefore thinking = losing.

disgraceful little man Frank Castle owes a house to Salvation Army

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micnugget
12 Jan 2012, 01:41 PM
The guy is obviously smart and driven.
obviously? really?

The only obvious thing about him is that he is obviously crazy


Being smart requires high social intelligence; and emotional one as well.
http://popping-bubble.blogspot.com/

Thinking of an Australian property speculator (PI):
Inaction = missing opportunities.
Missing opportunities = losing.
Too much thinking = inaction.
Thinking = missing opportunities.
Therefore thinking = losing.

disgraceful little man Frank Castle owes a house to Salvation Army

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raveswei
12 Jan 2012, 03:08 PM
micnugget
12 Jan 2012, 01:41 PM
The guy is obviously smart and driven.
obviously? really?

The only obvious thing about him is that he is obviously crazy


Being smart requires high social intelligence; and emotional one as well.
He completed his PHD in 2/3's of the time of the next fastest person.

I would suggest that anyone who finishes a PHD is smart and anyone who does it that quickly is driven.

Many autistic people have proven that you can be incredibly intelligent with next to no social or emotional intelligence.
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micnugget
12 Jan 2012, 05:21 PM
He completed his PHD in 2/3's of the time of the next fastest person.

I would suggest that anyone who finishes a PHD is smart and anyone who does it that quickly is driven.

Many autistic people have proven that you can be incredibly intelligent with next to no social or emotional intelligence.
Catweasel say it agree. It a remarkable speed. Many the rumor say a Joye the never finish PhD before it run off to work at Vampire Squid. It a found that environment too mercenary.
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Catweasel
12 Jan 2012, 05:57 PM
Catweasel say it agree. It a remarkable speed. Many the rumor say a Joye the never finish PhD before it run off to work at Vampire Squid. It a found that environment too mercenary.


Chis is smart,

There are lots of smart people... however some of them are not well connected thanks to mommy and daddy.


Luckily for CJ, he was also born with a silver spoon in his mouth which helps.

http://australianpropertyforum.com/topic/9335676/1/


Rubbing shoulders with the Murdoch (mom and dad's friends) probably helped give him a lot of money towards his investment... good to have rich parents with friends eh ?




Gratz to him. For a spoilt rich kid, he as made a name for himself.

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CJ - Good luck to him. It is a rare blessing to be able to do what you love and never worry about your financial future.
Edited by Rastus2, 12 Jan 2012, 08:40 PM.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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