Here is a list of all the fabulous countries that are above us with faster rates of population growth.
Lets face it, who would not like living in Chad or the Gaza strip. Maybe Columbia is more your style? We are slowly climbing that list and aren't we in some great company, currently at 112.
We can do better if we all pull together, after all a growth rate of just 3% gets us into the top 10 fastest growing countries in the world. Gerry Harvey for example, that paragon of good citizenship, thinks 5% population growth p/a is reasonable. That would get us to No.1 and who doesn't like a winner, even it really means in this case you're a loser.
Think about those figures for one minute and you can see how we are an aberration amongst western nations. Not one country above us in that list is an equitable, fair or safe place for its citizens, well at least the poor ones, to live.. Some of those countries have the highest murder rates in the world, the poorest health and the lowest literacy. Something for us to aspire to I guess......
Rank Country
1 United Arab Emirates 2 Burundi 3 Niger 4 Kuwait 5 Gaza Strip 6 Mayotte 7 Congo, Democratic Republic of the 8 Ethiopia 9 Oman 10 Burkina Faso 11 Sao Tome and Principe 12 Madagascar 13 Benin 14 Rwanda 15 Western Sahara 16 Somalia 17 Yemen 18 Comoros 19 Congo, Republic of the 20 Togo 21 Malawi 22 Senegal 23 Equatorial Guinea 24 Uganda 25 Kenya 26 Liberia 27 Mali 28 Gambia, The 29 Eritrea 30 Afghanistan 31 Guinea 32 Turks and Caicos Islands 33 Iraq 34 Mauritania 35 Cayman Islands 36 Solomon Islands 37 Paraguay 38 Laos 39 Anguilla 40 Kiribati 41 Cameroon 42 Jordan 43 Sierra Leone 44 West Bank 45 Libya 46 Djibouti 47 Belize 48 Sudan 49 Cote d'Ivoire 50 Angola 51 Papua New Guinea 52 Marshall Islands 53 Chad 54 Guatemala 55 Tanzania 56 Egypt 57 Timor-Leste 58 Guinea-Bissau 59 Syria 60 Honduras 61 Nigeria 62 Macau 63 Philippines 64 Botswana 65 Gabon 66 Ghana 67 Tajikistan 68 Saudi Arabia 69 Haiti 70 British Virgin Islands 71 Mozambique 72 Nicaragua 73 Bolivia 74 Cambodia 75 Brunei 76 Nauru 77 Malaysia 78 Cyprus 79 Israel 80 El Salvador 81 Zambia 82 Tuvalu 83 Pakistan 84 Zimbabwe 85 Venezuela 86 Panama 87 Ecuador 88 Mongolia 89 Central African Republic 90 Dominican Republic 91 Tonga 92 Aruba 93 India 94 Vanuatu 95 Kyrgyzstan 96 French Polynesia 97 Fiji 98 Costa Rica 99 Samoa 100 Turkey 101 Swaziland 102 Antigua and Barbuda 103 Bahrain 104 Bangladesh 105 Nepal 106 Bhutan 107 Peru 108 American Samoa 109 Colombia 110 Brazil 111 Algeria 112 Australia
Immigration is central to many of the problems this country faces whether that be high housing costs due to greater and greater competition for the available homes, overstretched infrastructure that can not support the number of people, law and order issues as our the crowding and increasing poverty of many raises the amount of crime committed.
It is not immigration that is a problem, it's the fact that governments are failing to invest almost anything into infrastructure in a last few decades. It's a shame how crappy our roads are, our railroads, our public transportation, non-existence of floodbanks in flood areas, our half a century old power grid ... Even with no new immigrants, our infrastructure will collapse soon. Most of it is built 50-80 years ago and poorly maintained after that.
Governments spend huge amounts of money and still fail to deliver anything!
It is not immigration that is a problem, it's the fact that governments failed to invest almost anything into infrastructure in a last few decades. It's a shame how crappy our roads are, our railroads, our public transportation, non-existence of floodbanks in flood areas, our half a century old power grid ... Even with no new immigrants, our infrastructure will collapse soon. Most of it is built 50-80 years ago and poorly maintained after that.
Governments spend huge amounts of money and still fail to deliver anything!
We are exacerbating the problems with a never say die immigration program that is just adding to the stress on everything and everyone. Well, except for those that will be kicking the bucket in the not to distant future that frankly couldn't give a damn what happens to Australia after they are done using it up.
Let me correct your final sentence for you.
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Governments have stolen huge amounts of money to give to themselves and their friends and still fail to deliver anything!
If I am incorrect on that point I will be more than happy to admit it.
You are incorrect. From the CIA.
Population growth rate: India 1.376% (2010 est.) country comparison to the world: 89 Population: 1,173,108,018 (July 2010 est.) country comparison to the world: 2 Age structure: 0-14 years: 30.5% (male 187,197,389/female 165,285,592) 15-64 years: 64.3% (male 384,131,994/female 359,795,835) 65 years and over: 5.2% (male 28,816,115/female 31,670,841) (2010 est.)
So Master Jordan, what is 1.376% of 1,173,108,018 people?
Population growth rate: Australia. (How do these yanks get it so accurate. It have taken me heaps of data mining to come up with 1 or 1.1% now, weird.) 1.171% (2010 est.) country comparison to the world: 107 Age structure: 0-14 years: 18.6% (male 2,026,975/female 1,923,828) 15-64 years: 67.9% (male 7,318,743/female 7,121,613) 65 years and over: 13.5% (male 1,306,329/female 1,565,153) (2010 est.) Population: 21,515,754 (July 2010 est.) country comparison to the world: 54
And again Master Jordan what is 1.1% of 21,515,754 people?
India has a higher growth rate than Australia, a way higher fertility rate and an age structure ready to go.
Learn about population pyramids, please.
Officially we were at 2.2%, then 1.7%, as the last official figure and now, thought our work and in agreement with the CIA, we are at 1.1%. All over a three year decline.
Master Jordan Immigration and emigration denial is a problem. You need to get it straight as the attitude that we are somehow growing fast and it is kept a secret is alarming and very dangerous indeed. Get the facts right, then form an option as so far, thinking that India is growing slower than Austrlia is wrong and also dangerous. It reminds me of the property denial and rather a cause for all to be concerned about.
Population growth rate: India 1.376% (2010 est.) country comparison to the world: 89 Population: 1,173,108,018 (July 2010 est.) country comparison to the world: 2 Age structure: 0-14 years: 30.5% (male 187,197,389/female 165,285,592) 15-64 years: 64.3% (male 384,131,994/female 359,795,835) 65 years and over: 5.2% (male 28,816,115/female 31,670,841) (2010 est.)
So Master Jordan, what is 1.376% of 1,173,108,018 people?
Population growth rate: Australia. (How do these yanks get it so accurate. It have taken me heaps of data mining to come up with 1 or 1.1% now, weird.) 1.171% (2010 est.) country comparison to the world: 107 Age structure: 0-14 years: 18.6% (male 2,026,975/female 1,923,828) 15-64 years: 67.9% (male 7,318,743/female 7,121,613) 65 years and over: 13.5% (male 1,306,329/female 1,565,153) (2010 est.) Population: 21,515,754 (July 2010 est.) country comparison to the world: 54
And again Master Jordan what is 1.1% of 21,515,754 people?
India has a higher growth rate than Australia, a way higher fertility rate and an age structure ready to go.
You much vaunted CIA World Factbook would disagree with you. If you have an issue with that data take it up with them not me.
It has recently become a concern to the WHO organisation in fact that our health care provision although good will not remain so without much greater investment now we have exceeded the population growth rates of nations such as China and India.
The following figure has been derived from the CIA World Factbook and the Australian Bureau of Statistics.
As of the end of June 2009 the population growth rate was 2.1%.[9] This rate was based on estimates of:[10]
* one birth every 1 minute and 45 seconds, * one death every 3 minutes and 40 seconds, * a net gain of one international migrant every 1 minutes and 51 seconds leading to * an overall total population increase of one person every 1 minutes and 11 seconds.
That is the current best estimate of our present growth rate based on recent data.
2% growth puts us at around 60th on the list of fastest growing countries.
I am not quite sure why you have taken to calling me Master Jordan but if it pleases you I am not offended.
Really can we move to the other tread please? I am happy to debate the numbers with you there, not here as you cannot seem to overcome your attitudes, even with the correct facts. Please?
Let's take it to the other thread, please as others may want to debate the actual numbers and not what you think is correct. Slanging allowed of course in there if you like.
Even if we had a similar growth rate, say both 1.7%, then do you get it that this is a percentage of the total people added each year. 1.7% of 22 million is very different to the 1.7% of over 1 billion people. Shite!
Our growth was due to 57% from net immigration and 43% from births over deaths, whereas India was all from births. babies do not leave a country but immigrants do, and they are flooding out of OZ now.
Really can we move to the other tread please? I am happy to debate the numbers with you there, not here as you cannot seem to overcome your attitudes, even with the correct facts. Please?
I am not quite sure what you mean by my "attitudes". A more delicate sensibility than I may well take offense at that remark though.
You seem to place an inordinate amount of faith in a single source of data and any other data that is presented to you that conflicts with you thesis even if it is from the ABS you dismiss.
By the way China is at 156 with population growth of around 0.5% You must have forgotten to mention that one.
China has an Ageing population, India does not. We are using the abs stats, not the CIA in our work. I only used the CIA for your conversation as itvis simplistic and should have been easy to understand.
You do not understand population and basic demographics well and this is showing up. Now, thick head, move to the other thread as I will not play with you anymore here as serious debate is being misdirected.
Your attitude sucks based on false beliefs about the actual data. What you see only suits you and you can not even make out the truth, as your attitude about stopping immigration is blinding you.
As our average age is 36.7, then by law, half of our parliament should be under this age.
As nearly 6% of us are currently aged 0 - 4, should 6% of our parliament be toddlers? Should 4.5% of MPs be 80+? Which group would Wilson Tuckey belong to?
And how many seats should be reserved for the dole bludgers, the dope addicts, and the criminally insane?
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