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Australian Population Growth and Migration
Topic Started: 10 Jan 2011, 11:16 AM (21,823 Views)
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Jordan
13 Jan 2011, 01:26 PM
We need to stop immigration from countries that have opposing views to ours. We have enough muslim and asian ghettos already in Sydney and Melbourne and the Australian people have not even been asked what they want for their country.

Why should young Australians have to pay taxes so that some elderly Chinese couple can receive top quality medical care and live in heavily subsidized aged accommodation. Put them on a plane and let them "enjoy" all the benefits of their home nation.

Immigration is nothing but the destruction and dismantling of the existing culture and way of life.

Australians should by all rights be marching in the streets over this issue. The selling out of their home and country by a handful of men is inexcusable.

I have nothing against immigrants, they are only trying to improve their lot in life. The fault lies with the traitorous politicians and businessmen who have no respect for the values of Australia and will do anything to make a buck. Even sell out a whole country if need be.

If I had my way the door would be shut and we would take only humanitarian refugees who are prepared to properly assimilate and respect local cultures and customs. If you're not prepared to do that you can return to whence you came and practice the way of life you are so unwilling to give up.



I know I probably shouldnt bite, but the attitudes you describe above were not exhibited by your forefathers overmuch when they first settled this land, with respect to its indigenous people.
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davel
13 Jan 2011, 02:40 PM
I know I probably shouldnt bite, but the attitudes you describe above were not exhibited by your forefathers overmuch when they first settled this land, with respect to its indigenous people.
We are not able to wind back the clock but we can stop it at the current time.

The argument that we did it to the indigenous people and so should accept it being done to us is a fallacious one.

If someones ancestor murdered someone at some past point in time by that logic it would be entirely justifiable to murder that persons descendents.

Past actions do not justify current and future actions.
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Jordan
13 Jan 2011, 01:26 PM
We need to stop immigration from countries that have opposing views to ours. We have enough muslim and asian ghettos already in Sydney and Melbourne and the Australian people have not even been asked what they want for their country.

Why should young Australians have to pay taxes so that some elderly Chinese couple can receive top quality medical care and live in heavily subsidized aged accommodation. Put them on a plane and let them "enjoy" all the benefits of their home nation.

Immigration is nothing but the destruction and dismantling of the existing culture and way of life.

Australians should by all rights be marching in the streets over this issue. The selling out of their home and country by a handful of men is inexcusable.

I have nothing against immigrants, they are only trying to improve their lot in life. The fault lies with the traitorous politicians and businessmen who have no respect for the values of Australia and will do anything to make a buck. Even sell out a whole country if need be.

If I had my way the door would be shut and we would take only humanitarian refugees who are prepared to properly assimilate and respect local cultures and customs. If you're not prepared to do that you can return to whence you came and practice the way of life you are so unwilling to give up.



the first white settlers formed ghettos, they didn't assimilate very well at all.

when's the march? i've got some spare white sheets that i could whip up into uniforms for it.

if anyone needs deporting, it's you.
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davel
13 Jan 2011, 02:40 PM
I know I probably shouldnt bite, but the attitudes you describe above were not exhibited by your forefathers overmuch when they first settled this land, with respect to its indigenous people.
Oh and by the way Davel if you aspire to a hunter gather lifestyle rather than the western one you currently enjoy you can join a tribe in PNG for a few years and see how you like it. Good luck with the traditional dentistry and short brutal life you may lead.

It has been a disaster for the Aboriginals and we need to recognize that but we can not turn back the clock to an earlier time and impose our modern values on the colonialist expansion that occurred centuries ago.

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zaph
13 Jan 2011, 02:51 PM
the first white settlers formed ghettos, they didn't assimilate very well at all.

when's the march? i've got some spare white sheets that i could whip up into uniforms for it.

if anyone needs deporting, it's you.
I have family that work in health care and they and many others they work with are sick to death of having to arrange for interpreters for half the people in casualty most days.

They are fed up with treating recent arrivals to this country when they have been stretched so thin in regard to budgets and resources and every year the system has to deal with ever increasing numbers of people on the same money and using the same or less facilities.

Is that fair to young Australians who have to pay the bills for all this. Shouldn't we ask them at least.

Shouldn't we ask them if they want to compete ever harder against people that have just immigrated here for housing, employment etc.

I think it would be only fair to ask those who stand to inherit the mess we are currently creating as they will be the ones that have to endure living in it.

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Opened a can of worms there Jordan.
I know where you are coming from, but the solution is not that simple.
Where would we be without all the variety & cultural richness that immigration has brought this nation.
What awaits us in the future with such an insular society that this type of restriction would create?
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Jordan
13 Jan 2011, 02:54 PM
If you are a true Australian and not some recent import you should be ashamed.
ashamed of what? calling you a racist?

what is a true Australian?

i'm white
i drive a holden
i swear and call people mate
i drink beer
i was born in australia

does that make me a true Australian?
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Harpy
13 Jan 2011, 03:06 PM
Where would we be without all the variety & cultural richness that immigration has brought this nation.
What awaits us in the future with such an insular society that this type of restriction would create?
On your first point. You can have diversity without multiculturalism. The Greeks are a good example of that. They came here and although they retained aspects of their culture they have on the whole become Australians. We are not seeing that type of immigration now.

We are just bringing in anybody from anywhere, the more war torn and wretched the better. We do not have enough jobs for the people already here nor do we have the infrastructure to support them.

You ask what awaits us in the future. I can tell you that I would rather live in a nation modeled on the Swiss when I am old than one modeled on India or China.

I would rather sit by the shores of Lake Geneva and enjoy a coffee after attending the theatre than have to walk down a crowded filthy street to my one bedroom flat with my whole family living in it after putting in a hard 18 hour day. If the latter is more appealing to some peoples tastes they should take their children and raise them in a country that offers that quality of life.

We should not be degrading the quality of life for the existing and future citizens of Australia without asking them first if its ok.

We need to accept that our culture has a rich history and that we as Australians have an obligation to protect and nurture our way of life. If people that come here to live from abroad insist that they have a right to live in the way they did in their previous country they can just leave.

We need a policy of assimilation to go along with immigration. If you want to live in Australia you need to become an Australian. We protect cultures here that preach a complete take over in time of our western way of life and not a single person even pauses to consider what that means. You just trot out the old line that we need to protect diversity.

The countries of the world that have limited immigration are the ones that are doing the best in regards to quality of life. They are also the countries that value the future of the soil they live on and that their children will one day inherit.

Australia will be a nation of ever diminishing quality of life if we do nothing to stop what is now occurring.

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Shadow
13 Jan 2011, 11:56 AM
Pauk, here you go...

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LOL, too funny. Pauk posted my chart on Simple&Sustainable, but the S&S mods couldn't stomach a chart with 'Chart by Shadow' printed on it posted on their bear forum, so they made a copy of the chart, deleted my name from it, uploaded their new version to another image hosting site, and then secretly (so it doesn't say 'edited by mod' or anything) edited Pauk's post, deleted my original chart, and inserted their new censored version of my chart!

Max Carnage/Foundation, you're such a big paranoid big twit. Imagine going to all that effort to remove my name because you couldn't stand the thought of one of my charts being on your forum! Here is Max's version of my chart, censored for his bears-only forum, from this post on S&S...

http://www.simplesustainable.com/topic/2722-demografix-population-panic-thread/page__view__findpost__p__40563

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Note the tiny text 'Chart by Shadow' has been deleted from the top right corner.

Seriously Pauk, I don't know why you bother with that Simple&Sustainable forum. They just censor anything they don't agree with. All my posts are on permanent 'moderator preview' so that Max can ensure that they never get displayed. :rolleyes:

Hi Max... won't be long before Melbourne prices are below 2005 'slump levels', right? :laugh:
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Jordan
13 Jan 2011, 02:54 PM
If you are a true Australian and not some recent import you should be ashamed.
Are you aboriginal?

If not, you are a recent import.
Ignore posts by The Whole Truth · View Post · End Ignoring
The forum fuckwit goes RRRAAARRRGGHHhhh - But not a fuck was given..................by anyone.
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