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it was not the many, but the special few who viewed the thread, that mattered. Lol.
Perhaps ask Alex about the guest numbers since the new thread, if he has that stat?
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There was an increase in guests browsing recently, due to a combination of factors I believe.

These are stats for last week.

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12% came from search engine key phrase searches. The most popular search was "zetaboards australian property forum".

23% came from referring sites, that is, other sites with a link to our site where the visitor clicked on the link. The top 10 referring sites in order were:

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Don't ask me why essentialbaby.com is in the top 10!
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17 Jan 2011, 09:29 AM
There was an increase in guests browsing recently, due to a combination of factors I believe.

These are stats for last week.

65% of our total visitor (members+guests) traffic arrived directly, that is, the visitor had our site bookmarked or typed the URL directly into their browser.

12% came from search engine key phrase searches. The most popular search was "zetaboards australian property forum".

23% came from referring sites, that is, other sites with a link to our site where the visitor clicked on the link. The top 10 referring sites in order were:

bubblepedia.net.au
c-products.com.au
delusionaleconomics.blogspot.com
debtdeflation.com
creditcrunch.co.uk
zetaboards.com
unconventionaleconomist.com
whocrashedtheeconomy.com
essentialbaby.com.au
s1.zetaboards.com

Don't ask me why essentialbaby.com is in the top 10!
The 65% arrived at what page? I am c-products.com.au as a one mouse band, so compared to the other busy forum sites, I feel I have just about completed my mission.
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Back to the topic. I am still seeing many in the MSM using 2.2% as our population growth numbers, or terms like strong population growth, to support spruikers and vested interests. If the spruikers are using population growth as their fundamental for the argument of demand etc, then they are in for a rude shock.

The spruikers will then use, URI's (unsubstantiated rent increases) or 'hey now that there is no more construction required prices are about so rise' ignoring the home planet and the realities of an ongoing slow evolving crisis, that is our Ageing population. A crisis we share with the majority of the nations on the home planet.

Longevity ensures that the average age stays high even after the boomer all die. That cohort is unusual in it size and while Australia has a second but smaller 'mid life' pig, the overall percentage of kids on our nation has dropped and continues to. We rank very high on the agequake scale, with our average age on the steep incline up and already our average is 10 years above the global average.

The property bubble popping will enable us to entice our young to stay. A good enough reason for it to happen.

I think our longer term population growth (next 10 years) percentage will be just over 1%, and at that rate our population will take approximately 70 years to double, or grow to 45 million by 2080. This will not happen.

It will not reach this peak as global Ageing inters into the global retirement phase and our immigration falls more, as countries complete desperately to retain their population and stem the rise of of their emigration.

Our deaths rates climb as the BB's begin to die, also within a short 20 year span. A short time indeed, meaning that during this time we may see next to 0 or negative population growth. A lot will depend on if we can stop the flood of aussie born 25 to 35 year old skilled kids leaving OZ permanently now. we must fight together emigration, even if immigration is 0. A common goal for both bulls and bears.

How about keep or increase the fhob, just for those who have gone permanently and are thinking about returning, or just encourage the pop and scrap the bribe alt other as it seems now the kids are 'getting it' as the trend for the last 20 years, and the last decade is down for first home buyers. Both as a result of unaffordability and knowledge.
A knowledge of the ponzi system and inequality it delivered.
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15 Jan 2011, 03:17 PM
Anyway Pauk, here is another chart for you...

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Great chart!

Clearly shows that mid 2009 was "Peak Immigration"

All downhill from there :beer:
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17 Jan 2011, 03:24 PM
Great chart!

Clearly shows that mid 2009 was "Peak Immigration"

All downhill from there :beer:
I wonder if anyone said the same in mid 89, mid 96, or mid 02...
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Do not be fooled.
It is about emigration putting a great hole in the side of immigration, and trending up this time. Look at Shadows 20 year chart. Emigration has not done what it is doing now!

That is what will really sink the pop rate.

So, it is not reduced immigration alone, but including the double whammy of peak emigration that means we are definitely heading south and perhaps beyond?


If you are coming here for the first time please review the charts back on the first few pages of this thread. :-)
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17 Jan 2011, 03:40 PM
earthsta
17 Jan 2011, 03:24 PM
Great chart!

Clearly shows that mid 2009 was "Peak Immigration"

All downhill from there :beer:
I wonder if anyone said the same in mid 89, mid 96, or mid 02...
Who cares? We're not the ones looking in the rear view mirror. That's the bulls domain
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Call for new migrants to help rebuild, should be call for our emigrants to come home.
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178 replies and over 2000 views.

Thank you Master Twitter.

It seems population growth is a big issue going nowhere fast.
Now perhaps we can address the real issue, emigration.

If LTV and STV stay negative, and emigration continues to trend up, then 0% population growth or less is on the cards.

That realization, will pop the flooded bubble.

No more population growth to depend on for demand.

That day is soon.
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