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Australian Population Growth and Migration
Topic Started: 10 Jan 2011, 11:16 AM (21,817 Views)
davel
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From what I see here, Pauk is saying 1.7%. Bit of a confusing thread though...

"We are officially at 1.7%. June 2010.
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/3101.0

Let's take it to the other thread, please as others may want to debate the actual numbers and not what you think is correct. Slanging allowed of course in there if you like.

Even if we had a similar growth rate, say both 1.7%, then do you get it that this is a percentage of the total people added each year. 1.7% of 22 million is very different to the 1.7% of over 1 billion people. Shite!"
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davel
14 Jan 2011, 02:59 PM
From what I see here, Pauk is saying 1.7%. Bit of a confusing thread though...

No, pauk wrote;

"Officially we were at 2.2%, then 1.7%, as the last official figure and now, thought our work and in agreement with the CIA, we are at 1.1%. All over a three year decline."
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14 Jan 2011, 03:12 PM
No, pauk wrote;

"Officially we were at 2.2%, then 1.7%, as the last official figure and now, thought our work and in agreement with the CIA, we are at 1.1%. All over a three year decline."
Once again. the source data is from abs only. I talked to Jordon about the CIA data as it is simple and should have been easy to understand. Appears not. All data from the abs.

Yes, we were at 2.2, now officially at 1.7 at June 2010 and now, according to November 2010 abs data graphed by Shadow and myself, Jan 2011 is at approx 1.1% and showing signs of falling further. Shite!

What is important are the trend lines in Shadows graph. Can you understand a graph with an trend line?

Also only using ABS data, as always stated. So please stop with the personal attack, or move it to the other thread. dimwit!

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14 Jan 2011, 03:33 PM
Once again. the source data is from abs only. I talked to Jordon about the CIA data as it is simple and should have been easy to understand. Appears not. All data from the abs.

Yes, we were at 2.2, now officially at 1.7 at June 2010 and now, according to November 2010 abs data graphed by Shadow and myself, Jan 2011 is at approx 1.1% and showing signs of falling further. Shite!

What is important are the trend lines in Shadows graph. Can you understand a graph with an trend line?

Also only using ABS data, as always stated. So please stop with the personal attack, or move it to the other thread. dimwit!

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You say "All data from the ABS" and "only using ABS data". And you say population growth rate at Jan 2011 is 1.1%. Where is your reference to the ABS saying that?

Shadows graph doesn't even pretend to show population growth. No babies, no deaths. Why are you pointing to Shadow's graph? You're making up shit.

ABS gave the June 2010 population as 22,342,400.
Their population clock gives it today as 22,531,891.

That's an increase of 0.85% in 6 and a half months - an annual rate of growth of 1.6%. All ABS figures. Not made up shit like your 1.1%.



And it was you who began the name calling. But that's the route dumb bears always take when their data is exposed as shit.
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I hoped my insult would move you to the other thread. Sorry.
The total numbers you quite from the abs include short term visitors.
I am saying that at 160,000 babies over deaths plus current net migration makes the today rate 1.1%. Time will tell if I am wrong however I do recall frank attacking me when I worked out we were at 1.7 when the official abs rate was still 2.2. So, perhaps I may be wrong this time, however I think not.
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pauk
14 Jan 2011, 04:11 PM
I do recall frank attacking me when I worked out we were at 1.7 when the official abs rate was still 2.2.
You call it attacking
I call it pointing out your figures were wrong

The OFFICIAL figures were those stated by ABS, not the ones you made up.
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14 Jan 2011, 04:11 PM
I hoped my insult would move you to the other thread. Sorry.
The total numbers you quite from the abs include short term visitors.
I am saying that at 160,000 babies over deaths plus current net migration makes the today rate 1.1%.
Oh, I see, the 1.1% is your own made up figure. Not "ABS data" as you claimed.
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Our work, Shadow and I. And. In agreement with the CIA data. Correct. Did we use the CIA data. No. We used the abs data.
I was corrected on the average age being 36.7 and rising, from the mistake I made and yes I stood corrected and apologized.
Ok, no apology required.

Can you actually comment on the abs charts that shadow and I have done, using the nov abs data, that clearly show we are now in down trends, apart from permanent resident departures as increasing?

Officially at June last year we were at 1.7% What is your estimate using whatever data you wish for up to November 2010? Do you think it went up or down. Make an educated guess, if you can and we will then be on the record as to what actually happens. Really you can hack at me if that is your approach you choose, but what is your opinion and analysis, if any?

You obviously have more brain cells, so what is your number?

I expect that you would rather wait until the abs in June or whenever, release their numbers as you can not understand the recent releases from the abs and analysis that data.

Do you think Shadow is also making up shit? I though he was, or is a bull?
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14 Jan 2011, 04:21 PM
You call it attacking
I call it pointing out your figures were wrong

The OFFICIAL figures were those stated by ABS, not the ones you made up.
Correct, I made up that they would be and were at 1.7%, when the latest realeas from the abs was 2.2 in June 2009.
Guess what? I was 100% right. Can you find that thread Frank?

Official figures last one whole year, how old school is that.

No you hacked.

All you need do is admit that I was making a number up, that just happened to turn out to be 100% correct. Lol.
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pauk
14 Jan 2011, 05:41 PM
Our work, Shadow and I. And. In agreement with the CIA data. Correct. Did we use the CIA data. No. We used the abs data.

Do you think Shadow is also making up shit? I though he was, or is a bull?

I have not claimed that the current or future population growth rate is 1.1%. The last official figure was 1.7%. The next official figure will be a bit lower (maybe 1.6%) but certainly not as low as the figure of 1.1% that you stated. Please provide your calculations showing how you reached a figure of 1.1%.

Remember that 43% of the total population growth rate is attributed to natural growth, not immigration, and the natural growth rate was still rising.

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