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Rufus
30 Aug 2017, 11:47 PM
I think we can do a lot better than the Queenslander these days. The technology we have now could offer us a moving roof that tracks the sun and converts the energy into electricity instead of heating up the house. That combined with insulation, design, and the alignment of the house to keep the sun out during summer means we should be able to lower inside temperatures, and when the temperatures do get uncomfortable, the electricity generated would power the air-conditioning.

Yes.
So, the easiest (low-tech) thing to do is to get the roof right. Sloping roofs are for cold climates. They (a) prevent snow building up to a point where the roof collapses and (b) act as solar collectors to heat a cavity above the house that acts as a heat sink and an insulator. Traditional houses in hot climates have flat roofs with a large eave that acts as an awning. The eave is large enough to prevent summer sun from hitting the windows, but allow winter sun in. It's length is proportional to latitude. That combined with the alignment of the house so the side with the largest windows receives as little sun as possible in summer and as much as possible in winter is a start.

The other thing that's great about flat roofs is that photovoltaic installation is much cheaper than sloping roofs and much safer.

When I lived in Wollongong, the first chance that people from the Mediterranean did when they got to build their own house was to build a house with a flat roof, preferably two stories high with high ceilings (12ft or more). White Aussies called them Wog Mansions and disparaged them at every opportunity. But they were cool in summer and warm in winter, so it was the Wogs who were laughing from the comfort and lower power bills.

And that's just ONE aspect of how shit most Australian houses are and how maladjusted they are for the climate.

Fortunately, we accept a lot of immigrants from Ireland, and those dumb fookers will buy anything with walls and a roof. They lap that shit up.
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31 Aug 2017, 12:06 AM
So, the easiest (low-tech) thing to do is to get the roof right. Sloping roofs are for cold climates. They (a) prevent snow building up to a point where the roof collapses and (b) act as solar collectors to heat a cavity above the house that acts as a heat sink and an insulator. Traditional houses in hot climates have flat roofs with a large eave that acts as an awning. The eave is large enough to prevent summer sun from hitting the windows, but allow winter sun in. It's length is proportional to latitude. That combined with the alignment of the house so the side with the largest windows receives as little sun as possible in summer and as much as possible in winter is a start.

The other thing that's great about flat roofs is that photovoltaic installation is much cheaper than sloping roofs and much safer.

When I lived in Wollongong, the first chance that people from the Mediterranean did when they got to build their own house was to build a house with a flat roof, preferably two stories high with high ceilings (12ft or more). White Aussies called them Wog Mansions and disparaged them at every opportunity. But they were cool in summer and warm in winter, so it was the Wogs who were laughing from the comfort and lower power bills.

And that's just ONE aspect of how shit most Australian houses are and how maladjusted they are for the climate.

Fortunately, we accept a lot of immigrants from Ireland, and those dumb fookers will buy anything with walls and a roof. They lap that shit up.
We don't get a lot of snow, but we do get hail. Flat roofs don't handle hail well.
A bad storm may only happen once or twice but you will still have to cover it.
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31 Aug 2017, 01:00 AM
We don't get a lot of snow, but we do get hail. Flat roofs don't handle hail well.
They do fine if you know how to build a flat roof. Most flat roofs are solid. Another advantage to them over sloping tiles.

Australian houses are just shit. Price appreciation is due to restricting supply and artificially stimulating demand. If that ever comes to an end there may even be an awakening for those who paid a million bucks for a crumbling third-world shit box.

Or not. Stupid is also stubborn.
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Jon Snow
31 Aug 2017, 11:30 PM
Price appreciation is due to restricting supply and artificially stimulating demand.
Houses dont appreciate they depreciate, its the land value that rises, this is not unique to Australia.
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Bardon
1 Sep 2017, 10:19 AM
Houses dont appreciate they depreciate, its the land value that rises, this is not unique to Australia.
Land values also fall. And when they do I would be rather disappointed that I was living in a third-world shitbox just so I could speculate on rising land prices and lose. But that's just me. Most Australians are too ignorant to know better.

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2 Sep 2017, 11:22 AM
Land values also fall. And when they do I would be rather disappointed that I was living in a third-world shitbox just so I could speculate on rising land prices and lose. But that's just me. Most Australians are too ignorant to know better.
Although a lot of them do know that land price changes have nothing to do with the grade of your roof.
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2 Sep 2017, 12:36 PM
Although a lot of them do know that land price changes have nothing to do with the grade of your roof.
Never said the two were related. In the places I've lived around the world I've noticed a high correlation between stupidity and land prices.
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2 Sep 2017, 10:27 PM
Never said the two were related. In the places I've lived around the world I've noticed a high correlation between stupidity and land prices.
So is ya suggestin' that tha stupider their people is, tha lower their land prices are?

Bit harsh perhaps, but just could be meritorious of momentary consideration Jason ... :)
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2 Sep 2017, 11:18 PM
So is ya suggestin' that tha stupider their people is, tha lower their land prices are?
No, that would be an inverse correlation.

Your enthusiasm for displaying your dim light at every opportunity draws my momentary fascination like a 5 car pile up on the freeway.
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3 Sep 2017, 11:46 AM
No, that would be an inverse correlation.

Your enthusiasm for displaying your dim light at every opportunity draws my momentary fascination like a 5 car pile up on the freeway.
I think herbie may have played you.

If the nations that have the lowest property prices also have the smartest people then it would be wise for you to relocate to those countries.
The barbed wire around the doors and windows is just for aesthetics, take no notice of that or the armed guards.

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