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Rastus2
11 Dec 2016, 11:44 AM


Sure, I would love a great transport system in Australia ... and a unicorn.
How much money do you think it would cost the government to construct a transport system in Australia that matches Japan's ? I am always interested to hear such cries as the source of such funds needs to be taxation... who do you propose to extract the money from ?
Forget about how much it would cost in monetary terms, the vision, drive and sacrifice do not exist in Australia. There are train lines and highways in Japan that are little more than economic black holes. They exist for a function and are a cost sunk into the semi-privatized system.
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11 Dec 2016, 11:44 AM

Well, for starters, these are empty houses, so the renters will not be affected if the tax benefit of having an empty house on land is altered.

The Tokyo housing market has been booming for a while, yet population there is not matching the rise, and it seems empty dwellings exist there for similar reasons.

Sure, I would love a great transport system in Australia ... and a unicorn.
How much money do you think it would cost the government to construct a transport system in Australia that matches Japan's ? I am always interested to hear such cries as the source of such funds needs to be taxation... who do you propose to extract the money from ?
Not going to work in a nation that is expanding it's population, and that policy won't change in our lifetime no matter which party is in power.
It's a governments job to look after the people, not the other way around. Governments who enrage their constituents are soon voted out.

Who do you know that will vote for more taxes?
No one would be the right answer.

All it takes is money to build a world class transport system. It simply has to happen, it's not a question of wanting one, it's a necessity that must be built soon.
we don't need to raise taxation. Japan didn't.
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11 Dec 2016, 03:18 PM
All it takes is money to build a world class transport system.
Not really. Colombo's metro system is better than Sydney's, and Sri Lanka would be considered a third world country.

Australian governments have spent more on metro transport per capita than their Japanese counterparts ever did.

It's not about money, but getting value for money. For that you need competence, in planning and execution, and low levels of corruption. We don't have either of those.
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11 Dec 2016, 04:46 PM
Not really. Colombo's metro system is better than Sydney's, and Sri Lanka would be considered a third world country.

Australian governments have spent more on metro transport per capita than their Japanese counterparts ever did.

It's not about money, but getting value for money. For that you need competence, in planning and execution, and low levels of corruption. We don't have either of those.
Skill can be imported. That's not an obstacle.

Only the will is missing, but we won't achieve efficiency as a nation if we don't have efficient transport including moving our workforce around quickly.
It's pretty basic isn't it.
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Jon Snow
11 Dec 2016, 04:46 PM
For that you need competence, in planning and execution
And thats where we come in, the specialist planning and execution contractors that is, we take on the risk and deliver the goods for a fair margin.
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11 Dec 2016, 04:59 PM
Skill can be imported. That's not an obstacle.

Only the will is missing, but we won't achieve efficiency as a nation if we don't have efficient transport including moving our workforce around quickly.
It's pretty basic isn't it.
moving our workforce is just one (important) factor to achieve efficiency... another is to lower the wages of most of the workforce enough to compete against the new "flat" world... then, to lower the living standards of most of the workforce to do the same... don't forget extending the working hours to match the longer working hours elsewhere in the world, and reducing pensions for the elderly or disabled.

Only then, can we boast that we are efficient enough to truly compete in the world, sadly, along with that boast comes a pretty shitty society.
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Rastus2
11 Dec 2016, 11:44 AM
I am always interested to hear such cries as the source of such funds needs to be taxation... who do you propose to extract the money from ?
Taxation isn't the source of government funds its merely a control implement. You have it all backwards.

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Rastus2
10 Dec 2016, 10:13 PM
Thankyou for your Pavlovian response
Thank you for spelling it correctly following my spelling lesson.
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11 Dec 2016, 07:04 PM
Thank you for spelling it correctly following my spelling lesson.
Thank-you for demonstrating what a petty person you are shoddy.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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11 Dec 2016, 06:30 PM
moving our workforce is just one (important) factor to achieve efficiency... another is to lower the wages of most of the workforce enough to compete against the new "flat" world... then, to lower the living standards of most of the workforce to do the same... don't forget extending the working hours to match the longer working hours elsewhere in the world, and reducing pensions for the elderly or disabled.

Only then, can we boast that we are efficient enough to truly compete in the world, sadly, along with that boast comes a pretty shitty society.
I cannot tell you how repulsive I find that idea. You are completely confused.

Our exchange rate covers that. You really need to get yourself up to speed and leave these luddite notions behind.
I'm actually not meaning to offend you, but that idea really is repulsive in a world where so many at the low income end have been left behind in their share of income distribution. It's far right thinking at it's worst. As a nation we don't lift our standard of living by paying ourselves less. Think about it.
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