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RBA leaves cash rate unchanged at 1.5% in December 2016
Topic Started: 6 Dec 2016, 02:58 PM (2,185 Views)
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Poontang
6 Dec 2016, 04:57 PM
The RBA don't control mortgage rates. Mortgage rates are now rising regardless of RBA cash rate.
More than happy to be corrected, but if the RBA sees banks moving their rates up when they (the RBA) don't especially want, won't the RBA just quite probably respond by dropping their rate a bit more?

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Simon_S
6 Dec 2016, 06:19 PM
Finally they admit that the cash rate is ultimately irrelevant when it matters most...
Incorrect, the cash rate is still the main influence over the mortgage rates, but it's not the only influence.

If mortgage rates rise, it will be because the RBA are comfortable with the rise. If they aren't comfortable with rising mortgage rates, they will drop the cash rate, and if needed they can control the 10 year rates as well.
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herbie
6 Dec 2016, 09:13 PM
More than happy to be corrected, but if the RBA sees banks moving their rates up when they (the RBA) don't especially want, won't the RBA just quite probably respond by dropping their rate a bit more?

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With about 40% of bank funding coming from overseas the RBA can lose much influence on mortgage rates if the buyers of the bank bonds/hybrids expect greater return for their funds. Also banks can raise savings/term deposit rates to attract funds but this may still mean mortgage rates can move outside of RBA moves.

In real terms there is not a lot of room left in the RBA rate to help offset wholesale funding cost rises if they continue to rise. (There is an expectation that that is going to occur in the near term)

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Simon_S
6 Dec 2016, 07:02 PM



You:




So which is it?

Does or Does Not the RBA Control Mortgage rates........

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Simon_S
6 Dec 2016, 06:19 PM
Finally they admit that the cash rate is ultimately irrelevant when it matters most...
The RBA doesn't set interest rates with the primary goal being to alter home loan rates. Surely you know about this? It's been discussed here previously.
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Poontang
6 Dec 2016, 10:40 PM
With about 40% of bank funding coming from overseas the RBA can lose much influence on mortgage rates.
Yes a very inconvenient fact....


stinkbug
7 Dec 2016, 08:42 AM
The RBA doesn't set interest rates with the primary goal being to alter home loan rates. Surely you know about this? It's been discussed here previously.
Glad to hear that.......

Edited by Simon_S, 7 Dec 2016, 01:02 PM.
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stinkbug
7 Dec 2016, 08:42 AM
The RBA doesn't set interest rates with the primary goal being to alter home loan rates. Surely you know about this? It's been discussed here previously.
Pretty good chance they will be forced to drop rates with todays GDP numbers.
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Rufus
7 Dec 2016, 02:19 PM
Pretty good chance they will be forced to drop rates with todays GDP numbers.
Since dropping them previously has been working so well it led to todays GDP numbers?
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GloomBoomDoom
7 Dec 2016, 03:08 PM
Since dropping them previously has been working so well it led to todays GDP numbers?
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Rufus
7 Dec 2016, 02:19 PM
Pretty good chance they will be forced to drop rates with todays GDP numbers.
They'll watch until at least March, I reckon.
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