Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]


Reply
This is why middle class white men are so angry
Topic Started: 28 Nov 2016, 11:16 AM (1,298 Views)
herbie
Member Avatar


Hmmm - It sux ta be a middle class white boy apparently?

"If you assume that power and status are relative concepts – gains must be offset by losers – then the advancement of women and minorities in society is a direct challenge to the power of white men."

"Given changes in the workforce "if the recent economic data is borne out psychologically for a few generations some men are vulnerable to feeling condemned to being part of a race of failures."" (bold 'n large mine)

Source: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/this-is-why-middle-class-white-men-are-so-angry-20161125-gsxlit.html
Edited by herbie, 28 Nov 2016, 11:42 AM.
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
Profile "REPLY WITH QUOTE" Go to top
 
Will
Unregistered

I'm a middle class white boy. Not necessarily a traditionally thinker by any means.

I don't regard myself as doing the wrong thing by this country or this world, yet weirdly there are people working hard to bring me and my peers down, and send me to the dole queue. Even through I'm one of the be heavily taxed.

What do I do? Licensed aircraft maintenance engineer. But certain people I this country keep making changes and threatening to offshore the work. Crazy shit eh? Enough to make a white boy bitter and angry.
"REPLY WITH QUOTE" Go to top
 
herbie
Member Avatar


Will
28 Nov 2016, 12:25 PM
I'm a middle class white boy. Not necessarily a traditionally thinker by any means.

I don't regard myself as doing the wrong thing by this country or this world, yet weirdly there are people working hard to bring me and my peers down, and send me to the dole queue. Even through I'm one of the be heavily taxed.

What do I do? Licensed aircraft maintenance engineer. But certain people I this country keep making changes and threatening to offshore the work. Crazy shit eh? Enough to make a white boy bitter and angry.
To the extent it just could be any(?) consolation Will, starting to get a handle on how the world works and just how it might continue to work in the future, is definitely a step in the right direction to beginning to figure out wot one might wish ta do about it all to their best possible advantage.
Edited by herbie, 28 Nov 2016, 12:37 PM.
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
Profile "REPLY WITH QUOTE" Go to top
 
GloomBoomDoom
Member Avatar


What a bunch of feminist nonsense.
MSE
Profile "REPLY WITH QUOTE" Go to top
 
skamy
Member Avatar


Will
28 Nov 2016, 12:25 PM
I'm a middle class white boy. Not necessarily a traditionally thinker by any means.

I don't regard myself as doing the wrong thing by this country or this world, yet weirdly there are people working hard to bring me and my peers down, and send me to the dole queue. Even through I'm one of the be heavily taxed.

What do I do? Licensed aircraft maintenance engineer. But certain people I this country keep making changes and threatening to offshore the work. Crazy shit eh? Enough to make a white boy bitter and angry.
You say that you are afraid that your job will be outsourced overseas, this has happened to so many before you. The boomers probably witnessed the greatest loss of jobs to Asia of any generation, but you know what we adapted and we survived, albeit kicking and screaming.

So many of the factory jobs, the car making jobs, the food processing jobs, telecommunication jobs, IT jobs were lost to China and India. However, over the long term this actually led to increased wealth, better wages and lower unemployment. Go figure that one out.

The truth is that you cannot turn back the clock and trying to maintain non competitive businesses is rarely a worthwhile activity. Life unfortunately is not a bed of roses and there will always be someone after your job, sometimes you will win sometimes you will lose c'est la vie






GloomBoomDoom
28 Nov 2016, 01:39 PM
What a bunch of feminist nonsense.
Classic - you expressed the sentiments of the angry white mate to a tee :) :)
Edited by skamy, 28 Nov 2016, 01:52 PM.
Definition of a doom and gloomer from 1993
The last camp is made up of the doom-and-gloomers. Their slogan is "it's the end of the world as we know it". Right now they are convinced that debt is the evil responsible for all our economic woes and must be eliminated at all cost. Many doom-and-gloomers believe that unprecedented debt levels mean that we are on the precipice of a worse crisis than the Great Depression. The doom-and-gloomers hang on the latest series of negative economic data.
Profile "REPLY WITH QUOTE" Go to top
 
herbie
Member Avatar


GloomBoomDoom
28 Nov 2016, 01:39 PM
What a bunch of feminist nonsense.
Ya just can't write it off that easy dude - Moops felt tha same way.

Tha anger's out there ...
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
Profile "REPLY WITH QUOTE" Go to top
 
Rufus
Member Avatar


herbie
28 Nov 2016, 01:53 PM
Ya just can't write it off that easy dude - Moops felt tha same way.

Tha anger's out there ...
And there is heaps of it.

The jobs were lost in any case, but they need someone to blame.
Take risks - if you win you will become wealthy, if you lose you will become wise
Profile "REPLY WITH QUOTE" Go to top
 
herbie
Member Avatar


Rufus
28 Nov 2016, 02:04 PM
The jobs were lost in any case, but they need someone to blame.
Wogs 'n wimmen 'n boomers?

Well, tha good news is that tha boomers will all eventually die.

'N ya can put ya foot down about tha wogs gettin' in just maybe?

So's if ya can only figure out some way ta kill off all tha sheilas, ya'll be able ta have a really 'gay' ole time ... :)

Sorries - I'm just obviously a really, Really, REALLY bad person! - LOL
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
Profile "REPLY WITH QUOTE" Go to top
 
Will
Unregistered

skamy
28 Nov 2016, 01:51 PM
You say that you are afraid that your job will be outsourced overseas, this has happened to so many before you. The boomers probably witnessed the greatest loss of jobs to Asia of any generation, but you know what we adapted and we survived, albeit kicking and screaming.

So many of the factory jobs, the car making jobs, the food processing jobs, telecommunication jobs, IT jobs were lost to China and India. However, over the long term this actually led to increased wealth, better wages and lower unemployment. Go figure that one out.

The truth is that you cannot turn back the clock and trying to maintain non competitive businesses is rarely a worthwhile activity. Life unfortunately is not a bed of roses and there will always be someone after your job, sometimes you will win sometimes you will lose c'est la vie







Classic - you expressed the sentiments of the angry white mate to a tee :) :)
We have been lucky in this country, but in the case of America, the middle class haven't had the option to do anything else, because nothing else has been available. That's why there is only about 20% of USA which is technically middle class these days.

Not all that many people enjoy having to be innovative, retrain at their own cost every few years, work on either a contract or casual basis, move to where the jobs are etc. And in any case, many of those 'new' jobs, only young people need apply.

Strangely, the left still don't think people had a right to vote for Donald, or someone else anti establishment.
"REPLY WITH QUOTE" Go to top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
ZetaBoards gives you all the tools to create a successful discussion community.
« Previous Topic · Australian Property Forum · Next Topic »
Reply



Australian Property Forum is an economics and finance forum dedicated to discussion of Australian and global real estate markets and macroeconomics, including house prices, housing affordability, and the likelihood of a property crash. Is there an Australian housing bubble? Will house prices crash, boom or stagnate? Is the Australian property market a pyramid scheme or Ponzi scheme? Can house prices really rise forever? These are the questions we address on Australian Property Forum, the premier real estate site for property bears, bulls, investors, and speculators. Members may also discuss matters related to finance, modern monetary theory (MMT), debt deflation, cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin Ethereum and Ripple, property investing, landlords, tenants, debt consolidation, reverse home equity loans, the housing shortage, negative gearing, capital gains tax, land tax and macro prudential regulation.

Forum Rules: The main forum may be used to discuss property, politics, economics and finance, precious metals, crypto currency, debt management, generational divides, climate change, sustainability, alternative energy, environmental topics, human rights or social justice issues, and other topics on a case by case basis. Topics unsuitable for the main forum may be discussed in the lounge. You agree you won't use this forum to post material that is illegal, private, defamatory, pornographic, excessively abusive or profane, threatening, or invasive of another forum member's privacy. Don't post NSFW content. Racist or ethnic slurs and homophobic comments aren't tolerated. Accusing forum members of serious crimes is not permitted. Accusations, attacks, abuse or threats, litigious or otherwise, directed against the forum or forum administrators aren't tolerated and will result in immediate suspension of your account for a number of days depending on the severity of the attack. No spamming or advertising in the main forum. Spamming includes repeating the same message over and over again within a short period of time. Don't post ALL CAPS thread titles. The Advertising and Promotion Subforum may be used to promote your Australian property related business or service. Active members of the forum who contribute regularly to main forum discussions may also include a link to their product or service in their signature block. Members are limited to one actively posting account each. A secondary account may be used solely for the purpose of maintaining a blog as long as that account no longer posts in threads. Any member who believes another member has violated these rules may report the offending post using the report button.

Australian Property Forum complies with ASIC Regulatory Guide 162 regarding Internet Discussion Sites. Australian Property Forum is not a provider of financial advice. Australian Property Forum does not in any way endorse the views and opinions of its members, nor does it vouch for for the accuracy or authenticity of their posts. It is not permitted for any Australian Property Forum member to post in the role of a licensed financial advisor or to post as the representative of a financial advisor. It is not permitted for Australian Property Forum members to ask for or offer specific buy, sell or hold recommendations on particular stocks, as a response to a request of this nature may be considered the provision of financial advice.

Views expressed on this forum are not representative of the forum owners. The forum owners are not liable or responsible for comments posted. Information posted does not constitute financial or legal advice. The forum owners accept no liability for information posted, nor for consequences of actions taken on the basis of that information. By visiting or using this forum, members and guests agree to be bound by the Zetaboards Terms of Use.

This site may contain copyright material (i.e. attributed snippets from online news reports), the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Such content is posted to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic, scientific, and social justice issues. This constitutes 'fair use' of such copyright material as provided for in section 107 of US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed for research and educational purposes only. If you wish to use this material for purposes that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Such material is credited to the true owner or licensee. We will remove from the forum any such material upon the request of the owners of the copyright of said material, as we claim no credit for such material.

For more information go to Limitations on Exclusive Rights: Fair Use

Privacy Policy: Australian Property Forum uses third party advertising companies to serve ads when you visit our site. These third party advertising companies may collect and use information about your visits to Australian Property Forum as well as other web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services of interest to you. If you would like more information about this practice and to know your choices about not having this information used by these companies, click here: Google Advertising Privacy FAQ

Australian Property Forum is hosted by Zetaboards. Please refer also to the Zetaboards Privacy Policy