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Rising bond yields threaten sharemarket's safest stocks
Topic Started: 19 Nov 2016, 09:07 PM (7,441 Views)
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Jimbo
24 Nov 2016, 05:22 AM
They were not exactly "supervised by humans" in I Robot. Maybe you didn't quite understand the film?

Perhaps you should watch "Ex Machina"?

Or perhaps the new "Westworld"
Or perhaps Astroboy or The Jetsons?

You keep living in your sci-fi fantasy land Dim, I will just keep living in the real world.
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Matthew
24 Nov 2016, 05:07 PM
Or perhaps Astroboy or The Jetsons?

You keep living in your sci-fi fantasy land Dim, I will just keep living in the real world.
You mean fantasy like driverless cars or portable devices no bigger than a packet of smokes which allow you to talk to and see someone on the other side planet? Fantasy a few decades ago, real world stuff today.

You keep your head stuck in the sand Matey. Meanwhile, over at MIT.

https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/technological-singularity




Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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Jimbo
24 Nov 2016, 05:59 PM
You mean fantasy like driverless cars or portable devices no bigger than a packet of smokes which allow you to talk to and see someone on the other side planet? Fantasy a few decades ago, real world stuff today.

You keep your head stuck in the sand Matey. Meanwhile, over at MIT.

https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/technological-singularity



Dimshit I am not disputing technological advance. I am disputing your original point that within our life times people will work in a free energy world where all tasks are completed by robots and people don't live to profit.

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In a free energy world with fully automated production of food and and goods, there won't be much need for profit and money.

Your days of lording it up over a bowl of rice a day Asian waiter will be over.

Doomsday for knobheads like you, a new dawn for Jiaoshang the barman in Beijing.


Not only will that not occur in our lifetime, it will not ever occur. In any circumstance humans will want to profit from our endeavours. It is in our DNA.

As I said you keep dreaming about robotic wives all you want.
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Matthew
24 Nov 2016, 06:10 PM
Not only will that not occur in our lifetime, it will not ever occur.
We already mass produce the cheapest food in all history matey and as farming becomes more automated, food will continue to get cheaper.

In fact matey, everything manufactured is getting cheaper in real terms.

The only way to turn a profit nowadays is to cut costs with more automation. Great until the other guy does the same as you and you are back to square one.

More automation, lower margins.

It's going on right in front of your face matey and you can't see it.
Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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Jimbo
24 Nov 2016, 05:22 AM
Back peddling from what jizzrag?

I said originally "The RBA doesn't choose when to raise or lower rates and by how much. The RBA simply reacts to market forces (strength of the AUD being a major driver)."

How is that different from controlling the aircon in your car acccording to the ambient temperature?




They were not exactly "supervised by humans" in I Robot. Maybe you didn't quite understand the film?

Perhaps you should watch "Ex Machina"?

Or perhaps the new "Westworld"
You're just displaying how reactive you are, not the RBA
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Jimbo
24 Nov 2016, 06:27 PM
We already mass produce the cheapest food in all history matey and as farming becomes more automated, food will continue to get cheaper.

In fact matey, everything manufactured is getting cheaper in real terms.

The only way to turn a profit nowadays is to cut costs with more automation. Great until the other guy does the same as you and you are back to square one.

More automation, lower margins.

It's going on right in front of your face matey and you can't see it.
Actually Dimshit increased efficiency drives down costs which may drive down prices, but not necessarily margins.

You are showing how bad your business acumen is. No wonder you needed to be ready to do a Christopher Skase.
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Matthew
24 Nov 2016, 07:21 PM
Actually Dimshit increased efficiency drives down costs which may drive down prices, but not necessarily margins.

You are showing how bad your business acumen is. No wonder you needed to be ready to do a Christopher Skase.
Don't know where you've been matey, but falling margins are all the rage nowadays.

You move your factory to China or India where the cheap labour is, the other guy does the same. You automate, cut back on material inputs, cheat your way around compliance legislation (ala VW et al) and guess what? The other guy does the same.

You advertise to a global marketplace online, where anybody can compare prices from thousands of others who make the same thing as you and guess what? The other guy does the same.

So what else can you do to stay in business?

Cut the margin.

It's the only thing left between you and the abyss.



Trollie
24 Nov 2016, 06:30 PM
You're just displaying how reactive you are, not the RBA
Yeah, my bad smegscraper. The RBA is a leader not a follower.

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Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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20 Nov 2016, 09:23 AM
Seriously is pointing to a newspaper article the only ability you have.

Tell me how will a rise in US rates affect us and how much difference do you think it will make.
(hint - it will make some difference when US rates rise)
A rate rise under trump would be an interesting thing.
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newjez
25 Nov 2016, 07:11 AM
A rate rise under trump would be an interesting thing.
A massive debt funded infrastructure splurge whilst money is cheap to borrow when the markets are pushing up lending rates on the back of the confidence gained from the promised massive infrastructure splurge whilst money is cheap to borrow.

It will indeed be interesting.
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Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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25 Nov 2016, 07:11 AM
A rate rise under trump would be an interesting thing.
I think rates in the USA are destined to rise at about 0.25% per annum for about two years.

I doubt the RBA will raise rates here, but nevertheless as O/S rates rise it will push up the cost of funding for our banks. Whether the RBA reduce rates further to accommodate remains to be seen. They probably won't.
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